I hate to cut into your pathos here, but MP3 encoders don't cost anything. How it works is that you're free to distribute, say, teh LAME codec freely, and package it with any audio software you want--CDex, for example,--and if you keep it free, the encoder is free. However, if it's a program taht costs money, they have to license the codec first. It makes sense; if no money is being made, no money is being made, but if you're making money on a product where MP3 encoding is a bing selling point but you haven't actually made the MP3 encoder, it makes sense that you'd have to license it first. (Note, here, that Sony BMG did not do this when First Four INternet wrote the XCP rootkit Digital Rights Management program for their protected CDs, and are only not in very haot water for it because the LAME developers are being nice and not suing them.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Need, and would like are two different things. OGG isn't just for unix it is just that it is a format with a free public license, whereas MP3 is owned by a company and creating MP3s ordinarily requires a program you must pay for. OGG is actually a better format when it comes to size/quality tradeoffs. I have made OGG files of all the songs I like from my CD collection, so it sure would be nice to use them instead of having to purchase a program to make MP3s and then have to redo all of that work. Of course I still am not saying that OGG is require, but it sure would be nice. I also have a few songs that simply do not sound good when made into an MP3, but as an OGG file they sound perfect. I don't know exactly why that is true, but several people I know have tried to make a few songs in to MP3s over and over again with the same terrible results.

Actually, I don't know of a leagal way to obtain MP3s. The only song purchasing service I know that is accessible at all is the Real player store, which has their own proprietary secure format, which only works in the Real Player. I make CD's of those songs I buy and then rip the CD's for use on all the devices I have that can't use those files. I also do that because I don't want to have to repurchase those songs just because Real might go out of business, or even just make a program that is no longer the slightest bit accessible.

When refering to I Tunes I would assume you really mean, "If someone kindly goes to the I Tunes store and purchases songs for me and then also puts them on my MP3 player or me," because I Tunes certainly is not an option for a blind person without a sighted servant. <smile>

Sarah Van Oosterwijck
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 It always puzzles me why people want ogg support so much. You never see it
 anywhere<grin>. All of the music sites are mp3. I hear unix uses ogg, but
 if I go to a music download site like itunes, etc. I don't believe I will
 find ogg.
 If I am wrong, please correct me. But the last time I was involved in an
 ogg versus mp3 discussion, no one was able to show why we need ogg unless
 they were uging a unix box.
 At 1/29/2006 03:46 PM, you wrote:

 >I vote for .ogg support.
 >
 >Interesting about how processor intensive recording to a compressed
 >format is. Hadn't realized that since the little digital recorders
 >record directly to .wma. But then, that's all they do.
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