Hi list it is not Sendero's intention of asking our users to publish our
direct email responses to another list.  I hope you can all respect our
position as I do agree that this list's function is to serve the users of
the Braillenote products.  I an not telling the user that that Keysoft has a
problem, instead stating that the product is function as designed and to
have changes made in Keysoft the user should contact Humanware directly.

Carl Simmons
Sendero Group Training and Technical Support
1-888-757-6810 Ext. 106
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GianniP46
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:16 AM
To: BrailleNoteList
Subject: [Braillenote] Fw: [gps-talkusers] Re: Bug with locking the keyboard

Hi,

I was told that I should forward this to huminware.  It's a problem with the

sendero GPS that they say is keysofts fault.  Can someone from huminware 
please look in to this?  All of the messages are below.  THANKS!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'GianniP46'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: [gps-talkusers] Re: Bug with locking the keyboard


> Sorry if you do not feel that this issue is a Keysoft function restriction
> and is the intended design. The Sendero software can not change this 
> design
> of Keysoft.  There are many reasons that Keysoft operates this way.  If 
> you
> feel that this is a serious issue I would recommend that you contact
> Humanware for there assistance.
>
> Carl Simmons
> Sendero Group Training and Technical Support
> 1-888-757-6810 Ext. 106
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GianniP46
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Bug with locking the keyboard
>
> This might be "normal operation", but it can cause problems.  Again, I
> almost missed my stop because of the speech accidentally being turned off.
> I would hope that it can be looked in to.  I will definitely keep my thumb
> keys turned off in the GPS app. for now.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:27 AM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Bug with locking the keyboard
>
>
>> Gian,
>>
>> This is normal operation.  The dots 123456 command will lock the keyboard
>> from issuing GPS commands.  The keyboard command you are addressing are
>> Keysoft commands.  If you investigate further you will find that many of
>> the
>> Keysoft commands can be executed with the keyboard locked. Some examples
>> are
>> check time or date, return to main menu, go to the Keysoft options menu
>> turn
>> on/off
>> Braille ect.
>>
>> For many reasons a venders program can not override the Keysoft 
>> controlled
>> key commands.
>>
>>
>> Carl Simmons
>> Sendero Group Training and Technical Support
>> 1-888-757-6810 Ext. 106
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GianniP46
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:27 PM
>> To: GPS-TalkUsers
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Bug with locking the keyboard
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I would like to report what I think is a bug.
>>
>> When you lock the keyboard with a 123456, The previous with space bar
>> keystroke still works.  That is the keystroke that turns off speech on 
>> the
>> BN BT.  I was on a bus and had my keyboard locked, but the speech some 
>> how
>> got turned off and I almost missed my stop.  Thank God the driver
>> remembered
>>
>> to announce it.  When I checked if that keystroke actually would work
>> while
>> the keyboard is locked, it actually did.  I can reproduce this at will.
>> I must of activated that keystroke by mistake.  I had headphones on and
>> the
>>
>> BN's cover on, so I must of pressed the previous thumb key and the space
>> bar
>>
>> together some how.
>> I am using GPS v 3.5 on a BN MPower running keysoft 7 build 22.  I am
>> using
>> eloquence for my speech.
>>
>> Steps to reproduce:
>> 1. When running GPS, lock your key board with 123456.
>> 2. Confirm that your keyboard is locked by pressing a key or two.
>> 3.  Try to turn off speech by pressing space with previous on the BT
>> keyboard.
>> It would be interesting to know if this also happens on a QT keyboard.
>> 4. Notice that your speech is now turned off and the GPS will not speak
>> any
>> of the lookaround info.
>> 5. Again confirm that the keyboard is locked by pressing some other
>> keystrokes.  You will get the keyboard is locked message on your Braille
>> display.
>> 6. turn speech on again by pressing space with previous.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm or not confirm?  THANKS!
>> Gian Pedulla
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>
> 


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