Dot 9?  I never heard of dot 9!  There are usually 6 or 8 dots in a braille 
cell.

I'm glad I use WindowEyes!  The QT keyboard becomes a braille style keyboard 
when plugged into the PC and used as a braille display and there's a nice 
appendix with all the BN hot keys and what they do.

So far, GW Micro has the best Tech Support.  HumanWare had better jack 
theirs up.  I have worked switchboards and I know that when the system is 
down, both the operator and the customer are frustrated.  If a phone system 
is completely down, no calls can be received or made.  That may be why the 
person never received a callback.

Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.  Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, 
California
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Lingard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] figured it out, no thanks to Humanware


: Ottawa Canada
:
: I thought I would let the list know the frustrations a good
: friend of mine has had in figuring out the top of screen command
: for the BrailleNote 32 QT Classic running KeySoft 7.- when using
: it as a Braille display for JFW 7.0.
:
: I gave her the e-mail address of Greg Brown, the Chief Operating
: Officer of Humanware USA to direct her frustrations with the
: Concord CA telephone system to as his e-mail address was
: mentioned on the list in a previous post from a very unhappy
: customer.
:
: I don't know who produces the help text for JFW 7.0, but it
: sounds like they forgot the QT model exists.
:
: And using the Space Bar as dot 9 is sure not intuitive to me!
:
: Brian
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: To: Brian Lingard
: Subject: figured it out, no thanks to Humanware
:
:
: Today I once again called Humanware's tech support re my use of
: the
: BrailleNote as a display with JAWS; and after not even a minute
: of waiting,
: a woman came on the phone.  I explained my situation and was in
: the process
: of demonstrating to her what happened when I tried to do the T in
: files
: with speech turned on, when I realized that she wasn't there any
: longer.  Who knows why, but I got disconnected!  I call back
: again, and
: while waiting to speak to someone, I get disconnected again!  I
: then called
: again, this time not even being able to wait for someone and
: being forced
: to leave a message; and I left one in utter rage, explaining what
: I'd just
: been through.  No one has since called me back, by the way, and
: this was a
: few hours ago.  I then called Humanware's main number and pressed
: 0.  On
: came a message stating that I'd reached customer service, but
: that no
: agents were available to answer the call.  I then left a nasty
: message
: asking why it was that during business hours, no one was there to
: answer
: the phone, and requesting that they give me the name and address
: of the
: president of the company, as I was going to write him a letter re
: my
: horrible experiences when dealing with tech support.  No one has
: called me
: from there, either, of course.
:
: I then went scrounging around in the JAWS Help system and found
: info on how
: to use the BrailleNote as a display with the computer.  Once
: again, I found
: that the focus was on using a BT keyboard, with barely any
: mention of the
: QT at all.  Some of the eplanations were confusing, at best, so I
: ended up
: having to do a bit of playing around to figure things out.  For
: instance,
: it said Dot 9 came between dots 1 and 4; so I thought that meant
: that Dot 9
: was either the G or H keys. Noooo, I eventually figured out that
: Dot 9,
: which is used in the Top/Bottom of Window commands, is the
: Spacebar!  Nice
: of them to tell me this in the manual, don't you think?  BTW,
: while I knew
: that I use the S D F and J K L keys to simulate the six Braille
: dots, the
: manual never ever said this, from what I recall.  Can you believe
: that?
:
: Anyway, there appear to be two commands to get to the bottom of
: the current
: window, one being the B that I discovered before, and the other
: being the
: opposite of the command I was looking for to go to the top of the
: window.  The weird thing was that I didn't see the corresponding
: T command
: in the command list.  I did, though, see Top and Bottom of Window
: commands
: listed, both of which work, and both of which use that Dot 9 that
: I
: mentioned before.  Need I tell you how irate I am with
: Humanware's tech
: support, and how little I think of the writing of that JAWS Help
: topic?  Does F.S. write those Help topics, or does the company
: whose
: display they refer to write them?  In other words, should I fault
: F.S. with
: the poor writing of that Help topic, or is it Humanware who's at
: fault?  Boy, am I p****d!  But at least I figured it out on my
: own.
:
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