Jonathon,

The idea of basic how-to articles sounds absolutely wonderful.  I and others
on this list have come to the list as new members and asked if there were
step-by-step tutorials available.  While I appreciate the manual, it can
sometimes be rather confusing and definitely overwhelming for new users,
especially users that this is their very first experience with a notetaker
of any kind.  I will have had my BNQT for a year in October and there are
still sections that I have never even opened much less the ones I have
opened but still do not really know how to use.

Cindy

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> Hi Sammie, we're always willing to make changes when good 
> suggestions such 
> as Rhonda's are made. The issue with most of this thread is 
> that there is 
> no substance or specific issues being brought to light. Just 
> because a few 
> people say over and over again that certain people are being 
> ignored, that 
> doesn't make it true, particularly when there is no evidence 
> forthcoming. 
> Just repeating the same mantra doesn't make something 
> correct. Rhonda made 
> a very valid point, but no one else has been able to 
> demonstrate any other 
> issue where material in the user's guide, written in tutorial 
> style, is 
> somehow less complete or detailed than what is produced in 
> audio. In fact, 
> dare I say it, audio users could counterclaim that the User's 
> Guide is far 
> far more detailed, which indeed it is, and therefore they are being 
> discriminated against. I think it is sad when this list is 
> used to make 
> accusations without any specific examples whatsoever, and to Rhonda's 
> credit, she's brought to light an issue which must and will 
> be addressed.
> 
> In previous messages, I also faield to comment on Richard's 
> thoughts on 
> basic how to kinds of articles. We are considering a 
> knowledge-base type 
> application, and I think this will be a very valuable addition. It of 
> course would be on the web, so accessible to all.
> Jonathan Mosen
> BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
> HumanWare
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> Hello Jonathan,
>    Thank you very much for your understanding of Rhonda's message 
> on this subject.  Hopefully you can now solve Kathleen and other 
> members of our deaf-blind brothers and sisters problem with the 
> audio tutorial.
> 
> Sammie Clay
> 
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> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:57:38 +1200
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> >Hi Stacey, thanks for that, however Rhonda's point is in my view 
> a very
> >fair one.  What I have been doing is publishing the audio 
> tutorials as soon
> >as possible, so people can get a feel for the forthcoming 
> release.
> >However, this goes into far more detail than the announcements 
> about the
> >next release that we publish, and therefore it disadvantages 
> people who
> >can't hear the tutorial.  The information is contained in he User 
> Guide,
> >but of course it's generally not ready for publication when I 
> have been
> >putting up the audio.  That is inequitable, and some way or 
> other, we will
> >have to correct that for the future so that the publication of 
> the audio
> >tutorial is synchronised with when we can publish detailed 
> information
> >about how to use the new features in text form.
> 
> >Once we do this, then the information one has access to in text 
> is
> >equivalent to the information one has access to in the audio 
> tutorial.
> 
> >Jonathan Mosen
> >BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
> >HumanWare
> 
> >11 Mary Muller Drive
> >Christchurch New Zealand
> >DDI: +64-3-940-2219
> >http://www.humanware.com
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> >Hi Jonathan,
> >Please continue to publish the tutorials the way you have been
> >publishing them.  I enjoy listening to them before upgrades come
> >out.
> >Stacey and Chesley
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> >>Hi Rhonda, but we publish all User's Guides on the web site. 
> What
> >we may
> >>have to do is not publish the audio tutorial until such time as
> >the User's
> >>Guide is in a position to be published.
> >>Jonathan Mosen
> >>BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
> >>HumanWare
> 
> >>11 Mary Muller Drive
> >>Christchurch New Zealand
> >>DDI: +64-3-940-2219
> >>http://www.humanware.com
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> >>Hello, List:
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> >>You know me and my two cents worth, <grin>.  I realize, Jonathan,
> >>what you are saying -- a person can access the User's Guide to
> >>find out about a product.  However, a tutorial determines whether
> >>a person can afford, or can use the upcoming upgrade.  If a
> >>person hasn't upgraded yet, there is no way of accessing the
> >>Users Guide to read what is there.  With an Audio Tutorial, any
> >>hearing person can access it, to decide whether or not the
> >>upgrade will work for them.  My two cents, can I have change
> >>please?  <smile>.
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