You would need to talk to Bookshare about this. However, what I think and this is my opinion only is that they provide the Daisy format so people who don't know braille can utilize the books, this makes them available to all who need them, and Daisy is a way to keep the public from using the books easily, in addition to the unpack utility.
Most of what they have is automated. As someone who has validated a book or two, there is no way with the technology we have or that most of us have to mark up a book for Daisy. The last one I worked on, in fact, was in Word format and all I could do for it was to make sure the medical words were correct, and verify the copyright info. Rose Combs [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:42 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY? Hi Rose, Since you brought up the markup issue, or lack thereof, I'm really curious about how Bookshare creates the Daisy books and whether the responsible individuals could be talked into spending more time and giving due dilligence to real Daisy markup for books. I downloaded one yesterday and when I looked at the heading list, it looked like this: Page I Page II Page III Page IV and so on... then Page 1 Page 2 Page 3 Page 4 Page 5 Page 6 on up to Page 322. Needless to say, a list like that really isn't doing anybody any favors, and it sure doesn't give anyone a clue as to the book's content. I was rather miffed after seeing a list like that and have been considering getting in touch with the folks at Bookshare to see if they might be persuaded to adopt some sort of markup standard. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY? > Unless you are reading newspapers, most of the Bookshare books say they > are > in DAISY, however, they have not been marked up for daisy. Some of the > O'Reiley books do have at least chapter headings. > > Newspapers really work well on the BN and in K1000, however. I gave up on > Victor Reader Bookshare version when I could not get rid of Microsoft Sam. > I don't download Daisy books unless it is my only choice because no one > submitting them has the time to mark the headings for chapters, sections, > paragraphs etc. > > > > Rose Combs > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:07 AM > To: 'Braillenote List' > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY? > > Hi Kandy, KC and Others, > > I'm new to Daisy, as I've subscribed to bookshare. Here's my take on this > subject. I downloaded the VictorSoft Reader, Bookshare version. I've > been > very unhappy with it, as I'm unable to activate headings using either > Window-Eyes or Jaws. I thought it was a problem with VictorSoft, but > perhaps it's the book itself as it's text and even though it's downloaded > in > Daisy format, I wonder if it's truly daisy in the traditional sense of the > term? When I e-mailed support at Bookshare and expressed difficulty in > using their Daisy reader, VictorSoft, I was advised to elect to create an > html document where I could then scroll through headings using either > screen > reader. Of course, bookmarks cannot be set with an html file, but > scrolling > by headings works fine. If a book is narrated, then it's in my view, > truly > a daisy book with the ability to use a daisy reader and navigate through > the > book. I understand that RFB&D is now creating narrated books. The > training > materials I've seen from Freedom Scientific are narrated, (recorded by > them) > and would work well with a daisy reader. Don't know about web braille > from > NLS, hopefully, they are narrated. So for now, I assume the best way to > read daisy books from bookshare on a PC is via html. When I get my BN > mPower back this week, I'll try bookshare books on the BN and see how they > can be navigated. > > Les > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kandi > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:27 PM > To: Braillenote List > Subject: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY? > > I don't understand it either. People say that DAISY books are easier to > navigate through, but I don't think that's true. I think they're a pain. > > Kandi (spelled with a K and an i) > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: kathleen spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: Braillenote List <[email protected] Date sent: Sun, 24 >>Sep 2006 18:41:09 -0700 >>Subject: re: [Braillenote] Attention list Moderator > >>Can someone make sense of this discussion? >>I ws told that a "daisy book" meant it was a speech document. 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