Well in my case I have a mouse connected to the PS2 or round port on the PC, 
and this round socket or port is smaller than the round socket on the back of 
my Epson 1650 scanner, which is the same as there was on my previous HP5P.  The 
serial cable that fitted my BLM20 serial port also fit the one in my scanner.  
I'm saying that the PS2 or mouse port on my PC is probably too small for it.  
Slightly different shape.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joseph Lee 
  To: 'Braillenote List' 
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:49 PM
  Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help


  Flor,
  The round socket on the PC is not a serial port, rather, it is called PS2
  p[ort where you can conect a mouse or a keyboard. Sharondha, if you want to
  learn more about BrailleNote's serial port or the terminal for screen
  reader, go to User Guide and check out Chapter2 of the Manual. 

  -----Original Message-----
  >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:14 AM
  To: Braillenote List
  Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help

  That's probably so.  But I was referring to the cable or lead that goes into
  the holes or female serial port.  there was probably a change between the
  braille lite and the braille Lite Millennium models, I having owned both,
  and as the serial socket on the BLM was more standard, such as those to be
  found on the backs of many scanners.  I would assume that that's the type of
  serial port Sharonda was referring to as being available on her PC - a round
  socket where the round end of such a cable would go.  Besides, we are only
  interested in the standard parameters if we're using serial for a braille
  display.  (It was different for other things, of course, such as FDisk, and
  other arcana.)  

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Joseph Lee
    To: 'Braillenote List' 
    Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:45 AM
    Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help


    Actyually, the cable that works with the BN (or the connector itself) is
    different between BNS and BN products because: one, the connector itself
  on
    the
    BNS is a propriatary connector versus standard 9-pin connector on the BN,
    and second, these two uses different modes of sending and receiving
    information using RS232 protocol (serial connection).

    -----Original Message-----
    >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
    Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:25 AM
    To: Braillenote List
    Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help

    I don't know if this is of help; but the Braille Lite line of products had
  a
    serial cable that would fit the holes in the serial port [of the BL], and
    the pins of the PC.  If I lived near you, I'd give you the cable to try
  out.
    <smile>

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Sharonda Greenlaw
      To: Braillenote List
      Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 3:26 AM
      Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help


      No. My PC has the same kind as the cord--holes with no pins.
      Thanks.
      Sharonda & Rusty
      my adorable, chocolate Lab
      Phoenix, Arizona

      Read my updated blog at
      blog.myspace.com/special2god

      ----- Original Message -----
      >From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
      Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:07 PM
      Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help


      > Sharondha,
      > Does your computer has the same kind of serial port as your
  Braillenote?
      > (I'm assuming that you have an mPower) If you do, then the serial
  cable 
      > that
      > came with your unit will be able to do a pinch here. If not, then we
    have 
      > to
      > discuss more options.
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharonda
      > Greenlaw
      > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:00 PM
      > To: Braillenote List
      > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
      >
      > Joseph,
      > I know this sounds weird. But I need the socket with pins to go into
  my
      > computer. So, I have both a 9 and 25 port that need the socket with
  pins

      > to
      > go into it. What do I do?
      > Sharonda & Rusty
      > my adorable, chocolate Lab
      > Phoenix, Arizona
      >
      > Read my updated blog at
      > blog.myspace.com/special2god
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      > To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
      > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:57 PM
      > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
      >
      >
      >> Sharondha,
      >> A male plug is the socket with pins, where as a female plug is the
    socket
      >> with holes. If we assume that you have one VGA (a female socket that 
      >> looks
      >> like a serial port), a parallel port (the famous port), and the
  regular
      >> serial port (male socket), then you might want to connect the serial 
      >> cable
      >> that came with your unit into the male socket, and connect the other
    end
      >> to
      >> the serial port on your unit.
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharonda
      >> Greenlaw
      >> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:50 PM
      >> To: Braillenote List
      >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
      >>
      >> Joseph,
      >> Thanks for getting me straight. Smile.
      >>
      >> Well I need a male side to go into my computer because both the ports
    on
      >> my
      >> PC are female. Do they make such an adapter?
      >>
      >> Or with this USB converter, do you think my BN will work as a Braille
      >> display? Thanks for all help.
      >>
      >> Sharonda & Rusty
      >> my adorable, chocolate Lab
      >> Phoenix, Arizona
      >>
      >> Read my updated blog at
      >> blog.myspace.com/special2god
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      >> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
      >> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:40 PM
      >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
      >>
      >>
      >>> Sharondha,
      >>> The serial port on your unit must be a male plug, and the other end
    must
      >>> be
      >>> male as well. The port that is female on the PC end, but it has same
      >>> appearance as serial port, is the VGA monitor port. The serial cable

      >>> that
      >>> came with your unit is a female cable, where it has female plugs on
    both
      >>> ends. Somebody also mentioned a USB to RS232 (serial) adapter a few
    days
      >>> ago
      >>> (I've forgot about it).
      >>>
      >>> -----Original Message-----
      >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Sharonda
      >>> Greenlaw
      >>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:33 PM
      >>> To: Braillenote List
      >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
      >>>
      >>> Setting up the Braille display (Terminal for Screen Readers) is in
  2.9

      >>> of
      >>> the manual. I am very aware how to set it up. However, my question
  has

      >>> to
      >>> do
      >>> with the serial adapter and/or converting serial to USB and the
    display
      >>> still working. This is not covered, as far as I can see. Thanks for
    all
      >>> help.
      >>>
      >>> Sharonda & Rusty
      >>> my adorable, chocolate Lab
      >>> Phoenix, Arizona
      >>>
      >>> Read my updated blog at
      >>> blog.myspace.com/special2god
      >>>
      >>> ----- Original Message -----
      >>> From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      >>> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
      >>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:27 PM
      >>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> Brendon, Sharondha, and others,
      >>>> Brendon, just for your information: before we use any software or
      >>>> hardware,
      >>>> we ned to configure to meet our demands. At this situaiton, if you
    are
      >>>> using
      >>>> a screen reader, you need to tell the screen reader (there should
  be
    a
      >>>> place
      >>>> to do it) that you want the screen reader to output the display to
    your
      >>>> BrailleNote. And then you connect the cable, and you tell the
      >>>> BrailleNote
      >>>> that you wish to go to terminal for screen reader.
      >>>>
      >>>> -----Original Message-----
      >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Brandon
      >>>> armstrong
      >>>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:08 PM
      >>>> To: Braillenote List
      >>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
      >>>>
      >>>> I don't know the answer to your question but have you tried just 
      >>>> hooking
      >>>> your bn up to the pc its self?
      >>>> Brandon
      >>>> ----- Original Message -----
      >>>> From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      >>>> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
      >>>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:57 PM
      >>>> Subject: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> Hi all,
      >>>> I want to use my BN as a braille display for my computer. I have so
      >>>> questions.
      >>>>
      >>>> 1. My Serial port on my computer is a male, like the one on the BN.
    Is
      >>>> there
      >>>> such a thing to change the cord that came with the BN to work with
  a
    25
      >>>> female serial port? (If I'm wrong about male/female, let me know)
  2.
      >>>> Could
      >>>
      >>>> I
      >>>> buy a serial to USB converter and my BN work as a braille display?
      >>>> 3. If so, what kind should I look for?
      >>>>
      >>>> Thanks for writing back with all help.
      >>>> Take care,
      >>>> Sharonda & Rusty
      >>>> my adorable, chocolate Lab
      >>>> Phoenix, Arizona
      >>>>
      >>>> Read my updated blog at
      >>>> blog.myspace.com/special2god
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