Hi Joleen, > Thank you for your response. I know what it's like to not have your > BrailleNote and with Humanware they don't move very fast. Eugenio ps. How did you change the subject. I know about forwarding to myself and when the fields appear I am able to modify them. How did you manage it? ----- Original Message ----- >From: Joleen Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:31:32 -0800 >Subject: [Braillenote] Help with Translation/Creation of file types
>Hi Eugenio, >I changed the subject line to better reflect the content of this message. >When my Braille Note gets back from Humanware (HW) I will try to help >you. I want to check out the steps before I write them from memory. It >has been gone since November 16, and I have notification that it should be >here on Monday. However, watching the UPS progress, it has gone from >Concord California to Oakland, California to Louisville Kentucky and will >have to make it back to the West coast of the United States first. It is >scary tracking its progress!On the bright side, though, this is the first >time that HW has sent notification that it has been shipped and I very much >appreciate that. >Joleen >At 08:47 AM 12/8/2006, you wrote: >>Hi Joleen, >> I might have misaddressed the email enclosed. So here it is again. >> Eugenio >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Eugene Manfrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >>>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:54:07 -0500 >>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] Braille Music Notation on the BN >>>Hi Joleen, >>> I am quite ignorant concerning many of the BrailleNote features and >> when I try to learn how to use them utilizing the User Guide which is >> very good, I'm not always successful. Translating or "creating a BRF >> file" as you stated in your email enclosed, or any other translation >> process is one of those features that I can't seem to understand. Could >> you explain the process to me? >>> Thank you in advance. >>> Eugenio ar----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: Joleen Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >>>>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:06:49 -0800 >>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Braille Music Notation on the BN >>>>Hi, >>>>I use my BN to create braille music for playing chimes. I put 4 measures >>>>on a line because they fit well within the 32 cells. I number the first >>>>measure of each line so that I can easily find where our director wants us >>>>to start playing next. Sometimes it requires that I hold two chimes in one >>>>hand until I have memorized the music. When I sent my BN in for repairs, I >>>>embossed each hymn on my blazer. I don't remember exactly why now, but I >>>>chose to create a .brf file because the Keyword braille document was >>>>wanting to work on my work in some way. >>>>Our chimes director does not know braille music, or braille for that >>>>matter, but he e-mails me a code for the print music that goes like this: >>>>4/4 Key of C >>>>Notes B5 and C6 >>>>He then notes when I play with the following key: >>>>r 1 = whole rest >>>>r2 = half rest >>>>r3 = dotted half rest >>>>r4 = quarter rest >>>>r8 = eighth rest >>>>For the actual notes, he uses the same numbers for the values and preceeds >>>>them by the alphabetic letter representing the note. >>>>Chime music is easy to write because I only have a few notes and we are >>>>beginners. >>>>Anyway, he says it is easy for him to convert the print music to this >>>>code. I then convert the code to braille music notation. It is a little >>>>tricky to "touch read" the music until I get it memorized. but it >> works for >>>>me. I strap the BN around my waist while I play and read. >>>>I hope this helps someone. >>>>Joleen >>>> At 10:37 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: >>>>>Dear Eugenio, >>>>>Yes, I did create some of my music files using the BN. You must turn off >>>>>speech and create a .brf file and type the braille music using six-key >>>>>entry. If you are using a QT keyboard, the s d f and j k l keys are used >>>>>to make the six dots. In order to be sure you can import the file to DBT, >>>>>use manual hard returns by pressing the enter key. >>>>>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Manfrini" >>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:52 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>Hi Terri, >>>>>> I'm very curious to know since I am a musician and composer; you or >>>>>> someone couldn't have created the music you mentioned from the >>>>>> BrailleNote, am I right? If you did that would be fantastic. >>>>>> Eugenio >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>>>>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:21:20 -0800 >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>>I have heard that this problem occurs with all notetakers, not just >> the BN. >>>>>>>The reason is the work processors in the notetakers don't generate >> hard line >>>>>>>returns which can be read by other programs. To get around this, a >> person >>>>>>>must put the hard returns in manually. >>>>>>>If your file has both music and words in it with a line of words >> followed by >>>>>>>a line of music, then the file should import into DBT correctly, because >>>>>>>there are manual hard returns in the file. >>>>>>>Also, when you open a file which has both music and words in it like I >>>>>>>described above, be sure to open the file in line format and save it >> in line >>>>>>>format when you close the file. >>>>>>>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:26 PM >>>>>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>>>The question you should be asking is this: >>>>>>>>How do files created using Duxbury work on the Braillenote? And, >> how do >>>>>>>>files created using a Braillenote work when using Duxbury. >>>>>>>>The translator is not the issue. The issue is Keyword. If you >> create a >>>>>>>>.brf file using Duxbury, you will be able to read it just fine >> using the >>>>>>>>Braillenote. However, if you create a .brf file using the Braillenote >>>>>>>>and import it into Duxbury, your results can be quite frightening. One >>>>>>>>of my co-workers used the Braillenote to transcribe some music into >>>>>>>>Braille. When she brought it into Duxbury, it was a disaster. She >>>>>>>>described it to me like this: "it was a 20 page word!" no line breaks, >>>>>>>>no indication as to where anything began or ended. >>>>>>>>I am not advocating any note taker over another, but if the primary >>>>>>>>purpose for purchasing a note taker is that you are going to use it to >>>>>>>>create files which can subsequently be embossed using Duxbury you will >>>>>>>>have your work cut out for you. >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FunGuy >>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:10 AM >>>>>>>>To: Braillenote List >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>>>Hi Rick: >>>>>>>>Terrific question! Let me start by saying that my bias is toward a >>>>>>>>member of >>>>>>>>the Braille Note family for your school district. There are >> several good >>>>>>>>reasons which I will list and I will also suggest some questions you >>>>>>>>might >>>>>>>>pose to vendors and others knowledgeable in the field. >>>>>>>>First, at this time, the Braille Note family has the largest installed >>>>>>>>base >>>>>>>>by far! That matters because bug fixes and good support are dependant >>>>>>>>on >>>>>>>>the size of the population a company like this serves. >>>>>>>>Second, I believe you will find that the Braille translator used in the >>>>>>>>Braille Note family is Duxbury. I know that this is not the Translator >>>>>>>>used >>>>>>>>in the PacMate. In fact, this would be a serious concern were I making >>>>>>>>this >>>>>>>>purchase for school children. Why the PacMate uses a different >>>>>>>>translator >>>>>>>>is beyond the scope of this message, but as a pure bases of comparison, >>>>>>>>this >>>>>>>>may be enough of a concern to rule out the PacMate. >>>>>>>>Third, the premise of the PacMate is using commercial software. What >>>>>>>>Freedom Scientific doesn't address well is who will pay for the cost of >>>>>>>>developing the set files(scripts) for the commercial >> software. Believe >>>>>>>>me, >>>>>>>>that is no small matter so that piece of the argument in favor of the >>>>>>>>PacMate is mute to say the least and disingenuous to say the most. If >>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>accept this point, I would once again remind you of my first point >> about >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>size of the installed base. >>>>>>>>Fourth, the Braille Note family uses a token system to indicate print >>>>>>>>formatting. As a life time Braille reader, I can tell you that this is >>>>>>>>by >>>>>>>>far the best system for relating to print formatting. >>>>>>>>Now for some questions you might ask to further clarify the issues. >>>>>>>>Rather >>>>>>>>then asking if the files can be transferred (I'm sure they can with all >>>>>>>>3) I'd >>>>>>>>ask how the print format information is conveyed to the Braille reader. >>>>>>>>I >>>>>>>>think you will find that the token system in the Braille Note >> family is >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>best by far. >>>>>>>>Hardware is a big deal! It is also a matter of personal taste. I hope >>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>are buying units with a Braille display. If so, you might just want to >>>>>>>>ask >>>>>>>>a few of the potential users which display seems most natural and >>>>>>>>comfortable. I would caution you in that regard that a display that is >>>>>>>>refreshed by pressing router buttons in a location where they can >> easily >>>>>>>>be >>>>>>>>confused with other buttons is a recipe for trouble. It will slow down >>>>>>>>Braille reading particularly in young people. >>>>>>>>Finally, I would look at the history of manufacturers in terms of >>>>>>>>cannibalizing there own products by forcing customers to buy new >>>>>>>>hardware by >>>>>>>>unnecessarily obsoleteing the old hardware. This will hurt your >>>>>>>>district >>>>>>>>in the long run. I trust something here is helpful. >>>>>>>>Alan Holst >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "Rick Boggess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] >>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:54 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>>>>I am sorry for the earlier message which I forgot to edit to reflect >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>appropriate product name. The message should have read as follows; >>>>>>>>>I'm looking at notetakers for our school system. I would appreciate >>>>>>>>>hearing >>>>>>>>>from those with experience transferring Word and Duxbury files to and >>>>>>>>from >>>>>>>>>the BrailleNote. Is this possibel? Does formatting remain in tact? >>>>>>>>>Rick Boggess >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>>>>Version: 7.0.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release Date: >>>>>>>>12/2/2006 >>>>>>>>>___ >>>>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>>>___ >>>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>>>___ >>>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>>>__________ NOD32 1902 (20061205) Information __________ >>>>>>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>>>>>http://www.eset.com >>>>>>>___ >>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>___ >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>__________ NOD32 1902 (20061205) Information __________ >>>>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>>>http://www.eset.com >>>>>___ >>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
