What is UEB? I did not read the first part of the messages. Leslie--
----- Original Message ---- From: Terri Pannett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Stefan Slucki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:51:19 PM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Why does HumanWare support UEB Dear Stefan and list, I agree the math and science people should judg this code and there are two articles which definitely oppose the code. One is written by a Mathematics transcriber and compares the UEB symbols for math to those of Nemeth Code. The author was against the new code and gave his own specifics. The other article, which I didn't read, discussed the drawbacks of the UEB computer code compared to the present computer braille code. If you do a Google search for UEB, you or anyone else interested could find and read these articles for yourselves. Finally, HumanWare opened the door for this topic when they stated UEB code was a good alternative to the present computer braille code. I think it was inadvisable of them to make such a statement since the UEB has not officially been adopted by all the countries. I would be very disappointed if HumanWare took away the current computer braille tables (and the current grade 2 tables) and replaced them with the UEB. The full-fledged version of Duxbury offers all the tables plus many foreign language tables which the BN doesn't have. In conclusion, I think it's highly unfair to expect anyone, particularly math and science students to re-learn braille all over again. It's hard enough figuring out the math let alone learning a new code! I agree name-calling is not appropriate and I'm sorry it happened. Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Slucki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Why does HumanWare support UEB > Terry, Brandon and list, > > Well, I wasn't going to respond, again, on the topic of U.E.B. but this > sounds like a conversation we need to have on-list--and finish with, > agreeing to disagree. > > Braille, like any language, is an evolving phenomenon. > > When Louis Braille drew together the system we now know, there were no > contractions--those were added later. > > When I was in the U.S. in the 'Seventies, there were people advocating > for GRADE 3 braille which seemed completely goofey to me at the time. > > I returned to Australia and picked up a few insights from a short-lived > code-reform called B.U.O.C. > > Now, U.E.B. needs to be judged on its merits, but the knee-jerk > attitude that characterises some of the posts on this list speaks ill of > the self-centered, not to say short-sighted, outlook of some. > > I've already indicated that the great advantages of U.E.B. (apart from > standardising English symbols) appear to be in the math, > physics/chemistry and other such technical codes. Those with expertise > in THOSE FIELDS should be given centre-stage in judging its worth, in my > view! > > The fact that a few well loved signs are abolished . . . well, there > weren't ANY SUCH SIGNS before the grade two system was adopted so it's > our tradition that we regret losing. No one reading U.E.B. literary code > will be non-plussed by anything. > > I am encouraged by those posts from folks, older than I, who have a > potentially-receptive outlook. I think we need to agree to disagree and > move on. > > What I do ask, though, is for our American friends, in particular, not > to be referring to nations like New Zealand and Australia as "stupid" > for adopting U.E.B. You are free to disagree with such resolutions but > such provocative messages do re-inforce the Rambeau-image you regretably > have. I loved my time in Philli and wouldn't like to see this list > degenerate into name-calling. > > That's my last word on U.E.B., I promise. > > Stefan Slucki. > > Stefan Slucki > Braille Instructor > Royal Society for the Blind > Phn 8232 4777 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________ NOD32 2415 (20070723) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! 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