Kylie, how about we change the Braille display mode to editing? Would that 
show all formatting indicators we've used in the document? Just a thought.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
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From: "Kylie Forth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Brian Lingard'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:02 PM
Subject: RE: [BrailleNote] RE: UEBC Usage


Hi all

The beauty of UEBC is that you really don't need to learn another code.
Computer braille as we know it disappears and everything: computer braille,
mathematical braille, etc, are all written in literary braille. So, for
example, a website would be written with actual fullstops (periods for the
Americans) instead of the 4-6 dot combination. There are no change in code
indicators, you just launch into whatever would usually be in computer
braille.

I admit that I'm not too happy about the format indicators as it doesn't add
anything to the text except a lot of extra dots, but in most documents the
font indicators are minimal. They would however, be useful when preparing a
braille document for sighted consumption. At the moment, the only way to
determine whether you have actually changed font is to move along character
by character until you find the format indicator. This is particularly
annoying when you forget to turn the font off, or accidentally insert text
before it is turned off,  and have several paragraphs to navigate to find
the end format indicator. Having a concrete symbol instead of having to
change reading mode or something equally tedious will be very handy. In a
world where plain text is a thing of the past, it is good to be able to be
up there with the sighted. You can always elect not to use the fonts when
producing your own braille, as you do already.

As pointed out earlier in this thread, every code has it's disadvantages and
the good thing about using a BrailleNote is that you can adapt the codes to
suit yourself to a certain extent.

As to learning another code, you pretty much have to do that anyway to
access materials from another country. In Australia for example, our
computer braille code was a hybrid of the US and UK codes, and we still have
to recognise the more common elements of both codes because we get material
from both places.

There's nothing gained by attacking the code (which I can see happening very
easily as it has happened before on this list) and it is good to see some US
and UK BrailleNote users experimenting with the code.

Cheers
Kylie

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Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2007 2:41 AM
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Subject: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage

Ottawa Canada

Dear Terri and list:

Like it or lump it, UEB is a fact of life and it may be phased in
for general Braille production in the English-speaking world one
of these days.

Reading it won't be that difficult, if you aren't interested in
all of the font and such indicators, but you will probably want
to write it by composing your original in text and translating it
into UEB.

At least for a while!

Brian
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