Hi Allon; I have no trouble with letters and numbers next to each other. I just use lower case numbers. It is the BN that requests us to use the space u to signify computer braille. As long as you know grade 1 and 2 and computer braille, we are fine. I do not see what the problem is. That is why I would prefer it be left as an option. When downloading, then your unit can translate in the grade you prefer to use. I am not having any problems writing the way things are as of today.
Terry Powers -----Original Message----- From: FunGuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:35 AM To: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Braillenote List Subject: Re: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage Hi Terry Richard and list: I can understand where you are coming from Terry; I have been using Braille for about as long as you have. I happen to have a very different point of view though and if you are open to it I'd invite you to consider the following. Grade 2 Braille as we know it today is hopelessly broken. It has evolved in some unfortunate ways because well meaning people like Dr. Memeth invented a means of handling a specific discipline. Thus the codes aren't integrated. To make things more complex, current grade 2 Braille had no provision for expressions that are common in today's world like numbers and letters appearing together. Take the address for one of my web sites www.1number4u.com If you are reading that in Braille it's a hopelessly confusing mess because there's no space between numbers and words pressed together. Also is placed between letters; something the current Braille code didn't anticipate. The problem is made more vexing because there are slight differences in Braille from one English speaking country to another. As the world gets smaller and smaller through travel and telecommuting this issue becomes more and more of an unnecessary barrier for the worlds English speaking Braille users. I have been a heavy user of refreshable Braille for 25 years and I am frequently frustrated by translation issues if writing in grade 2 for ink print or using a machined translated text when unusual character strings are present. I'm not claiming to be a perfect Braille user, I probably wouldn't pass the NLS proof readers test without some brushing up. Some of the errors that happen when I back translate for ink print may well be because of my own sloppy Braille habits. All that being said though, Braille is not an end in itself. It's just a way of understanding print. If the new code provides for a less ambiguous and confusing round trip between Braille and print and print and Braille I think we more mature users of Braille need to suffer through the changes in the code for the sake of our younger Braille using brothers and sisters. If we don't, my opinion is we may well be the last generation to use Braille. I love the medium too much to see that happen and I'm sure that is a feeling we both share. Alan Holst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:08 AM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage Good one Richard; An option is fine but a standard, I say no. Why change something, when there is nothing wrong with it. I have been reading regular braille for over 40 years! Why change it. Terry Powers -----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 3:42 PM To: 'Braillenote List' Subject: RE: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage Amen! While, I'm not sure it would be any harder to learn, but if it is adopted, and children start learning it exclusively, then everything published up to that point becomes obsolete. I hope it is treated like Grade 3, it is there for those who wish to use it, but not forced upon everyone. Just my opinion, and remember, it is worth every cent you paid for it, grin. Richard ---***--- -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri Pannett Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:17 AM To: Brian Lingard; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage Brian, It hasn't been adopted in America yet and I hope it never is! I sent an email to Judy Dixon, president of BANA, and she said UEB hadn't been adopted yet and that everybody would be able to vote on its adoption. I will oppose it to the end. UEB is an awful code very difficult to learn and I refuse to unlearn everything I know about reading and writing braille. Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lingard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: [Braillenote] RE: UEBC Usage > Ottawa Canada > > Dear Terri and list: > > Like it or lump it, UEB is a fact of life and it may be phased in > for general Braille production in the English-speaking world one > of these days. > > Reading it won't be that difficult, if you aren't interested in > all of the font and such indicators, but you will probably want > to write it by composing your original in text and translating it > into UEB. > > At least for a while! > > Brian > Brian K. 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