Hey I'm Dominique, I had that same problem, just press the reset
button again and it should work properly.

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>    1. oh where are mp3 m3u's stored? (KB)
>    2. re: oh where are mp3 m3u's stored? (Alex Hall)
>    3. Got my new sounds! (Siena Trigiani)
>    4. Upgrading from ce 4.2 to 6 (blake)
>    5. re: Upgrading from ce 4.2 to 6 (Alex Hall)
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>    7. is it safe to listen to system sounds (wav files)
>       (robert cummings)
>    8. re: is it safe to listen to system sounds (wav files) (Alex Hall)
>    9. Where can I get the windows xp startup sound (Jose Lomeli)
>   10. 2 questions (robert cummings)
>   11. Braille Terminal Cannot connect (Leslie Peterson)
>   12. re: Upgrading from ce 4.2 to 6 (Joseph Lee)
>   13. re: 2 questions (Alex Hall)
>   14. Question About The Mpower (Penny Lewis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:01:41 -0500
> From: "KB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] oh where are mp3 m3u's stored?
> To: <[email protected]>
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> Hello listers. Does anyone know where one may find these if the braillenote
> hasn't asked where to store when downlodading from a site? Once listened to,
> how to delete? Thank you ahead of time.
> Karen and Harpo the seeing eye dog
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:09:59 -0500
> From: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] oh where are mp3 m3u's stored?
> To: "KB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I am not quite sure what you mean.  Do you mean when you listen
> to audio online but do not download it; that is, when the bn says
> "loading media" and plays the content? If so, these are temporary
> files and are taking up room only on the kssd, not your flash
> disk, so do not worry about deleting them.
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "KB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: <[email protected]
>>Date sent: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:01:41 -0500
>>Subject: [Braillenote] oh where are mp3 m3u's stored?
>
>>Hello listers.  Does anyone know where one may find these if the
> braillenote
>>hasn't asked where to store when downlodading from a site? Once
> listened to,
>>how to delete? Thank you ahead of time.
>>Karen and Harpo the seeing eye dog
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:46:56 -0500
> From: "Siena Trigiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] Got my new sounds!
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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> Hi all,
>
> Thanks to all of you who have helped me out with the BrailleNote
> sounds. I changed my startup sound as well as a few others without any
> difficulty. It turned out that the windows XP sounds I have on my
> system are dated 2004, so a friend of mine sent me his, which are also
> XP sounds but dated 2007. So now it works! Again thanks for all your
> help!
>
> I do have another question regarding the Keysoft sounds: There are
> some that are in the KSSD in the Windows folder that seem to serve no
> purpose, for example, the Openprog.wav and the close.wav . I was
> wondering what commands these are used for, before I go ahead and copy
> them in Windows on the flash disk?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> All the best,
>
> SIena.
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:53:50 +1300
> From: blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] Upgrading from ce 4.2 to 6
> To: [email protected]
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> Hi Guys.  I have listened to some of the theories being chucked
> around on this list and on chatts last year that Mr Leigh hoasted
> and am just wondering how hard it would actually be to upgrade of
> your own free will? I mean if there is a way to do it without
> buggering up the bn's braille translator or anything, I would be
> quite keen to look into it for myself.  Many thanks.  Blake Ison.
> Vinal
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:17:05 -0500
> From: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] Upgrading from ce 4.2 to 6
> To: blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
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> You can't.  It would be like upgrading xp to vista, but keeping
> xp's explorer.exe program and using it instead of Vista's.  It
> would not work at all.  Same here; if you were to put ce 6 on the
> bn, you would break a lot more than the braille translator, you
> would break most everything, besides which you could not go see
> what you had broken because the entire interface would be gone.
> Ks is built for 4.2 and would have to be rewritten to go to ce6.
> Believe me, if this could be done (upgrading yourself) I would do
> it in a heartbeat.
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date sent: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:53:50 +1300
>>Subject: [Braillenote] Upgrading from ce 4.2 to 6
>
>>Hi Guys.  I have listened to some of the theories being chucked
>>around on this list and on chatts last year that Mr Leigh hoasted
>>and am just wondering how hard it would actually be to upgrade of
>>your own free will? I mean if there is a way to do it without
>>buggering up the bn's braille translator or anything, I would be
>>quite keen to look into it for myself.  Many thanks.  Blake Ison.
>>Vinal
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:52:25 -0500
> From: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] Got my new sounds!
> To: "Siena Trigiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> These are for ce and are not used by the bn much, if at all.
> Some are used when recording, some are used when connecting to
> activeSync, some are used for rare events like pinging, and some
> are never used at all.  I do not remember the exact names of any
> of them, though.  The ones that are used by ks, like keysoft
> beep.wav or keysoft alarm 1.wav, are only used when Eloquence
> speech is selected, so changing them will only have an effect if
> you use Eloquence over keynote gold.
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Siena Trigiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]
>>Date sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:46:56 -0500
>>Subject: [Braillenote] Got my new sounds!
>
>>Hi all,
>
>>Thanks to all of you who have helped me out with the BrailleNote
>>sounds.  I changed my startup sound as well as a few others
> without any
>>difficulty.  It turned out that the windows XP sounds I have on
> my
>>system are dated 2004, so a friend of mine sent me his, which are
> also
>>XP sounds but dated 2007.  So now it works! Again thanks for all
> your
>>help!
>
>>I do have another question regarding the Keysoft sounds: There
> are
>>some that are in the KSSD in the Windows folder that seem to
> serve no
>>purpose, for example, the Openprog.wav and the close.wav .  I was
>>wondering what commands these are used for, before I go ahead and
> copy
>>them in Windows on the flash disk?
>
>>Thanks in advance!
>
>>All the best,
>
>>SIena.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:25:38 +0000
> From: robert cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] is it safe to listen to system sounds (wav
>       files)
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> hi list.
>
> Is it okay if i browse the windows folder of the keysoft system
> disk and press enter on a sound file to listen to it.  I don't
> want to copy, move, rename, delete etc.  All i want to do is
> listen to the sound.  Will this damage my braillenote mPower
> running keysoft 7,5 build 29.
>
> Thanks.
>
> technology: it's great when it works, but rubbish when it
> doesn't!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:08:30 -0500
> From: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] is it safe to listen to system sounds (wav
>       files)
> To: robert cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
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> No, it is just playing the file.  Gfor it.  You can even use the
> wordprocessor to open system files, just don't modify them and,
> if you do, be sure to NOT save (press space-e twice; once to
> close the file and once at the "document was modified.  Save as a
> keyword document?" promptar.  Besides, if you completely break
> things, just do a 4-5-6 (jkl) reset.  BTW, that is the other
> reason to put an alternative sound on your flash disk; if it was
> on the kssd, you would lose it after a service or 4-5-6 reset,
> but being on the flash disk it will remain.
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: robert cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date sent: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:25:38 +0000
>>Subject: [Braillenote] is it safe to listen to system sounds (wav
> files)
>
>>hi list.
>
>>Is it okay if i browse the windows folder of the keysoft system
>>disk and press enter on a sound file to listen to it.  I don't
>>want to copy, move, rename, delete etc.  All i want to do is
>>listen to the sound.  Will this damage my braillenote mPower
>>running keysoft 7,5 build 29.
>
>>Thanks.
>
>>technology: it's great when it works, but rubbish when it
>>doesn't!
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:19:05 +1200
> From: Jose Lomeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] Where can I get the windows xp startup sound
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hello; Listers, I have a question.  Where can I get the windows
> xp startup sound? Please write back.
> >From Jose Lomeli.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:14:45 +0000
> From: robert cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] 2 questions
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> hi list.
>
> I have two questions.
>
> 1.  When, if at all, is the keysoft ir connected.wav file used.
>
> 2.  This only ever happened to me once and i fixed it with a
> reset with no keys held down.  But the braillenote gave this
> message: "Serial number required, please contact your
> distributor." it then made a strange noise and then shut down.
> What exactly does this message mean.
>
> Thanks.
>
> technology: it's great when it works, but rubbish when it
> doesn't!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:21:51 -0600
> From: "Leslie Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] Braille Terminal Cannot connect
> To: "'Braille Note'" <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="US-ASCII"
>
> How could my PK Braille Terminal connects to Windows XP?
> Leslie--
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:25:37 -0800
> From: Joseph Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] Upgrading from ce 4.2 to 6
> To: blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Blake,
> Actually, my last name is not Leigh (although a fine guess); it's
> actually Lee (l e e).
> Well, here's a question for you (I mean all of us): "Ow many
> people remember all those talks about KeySoft 6.1? If you recall,
> it was basically a new KeySoft running on an upgraded version of
> Windows CE.  Whereas previous versions of KeySoft were powered by
> Windows CE 2.12, the new 6.1 upgrade was powered by Windows CE
> 4.2 (basis for Windows Mobile 2003).  Remember what HJ (then
> Pulsedata) said about the upgrade and its consequences? "The new
> KeySoft will not run under present operating system, nor old
> KeySoft will run on Windows CE 4.2."--Source: HumanWare.  Pulse
> Data Preview BrailleNote KeySoft 6.1, June 30, 2004.
> In our context of upgrading from CE 4.2 to 6.0, the same
> principle apply here: theoretically, one cannot use KeySoft 7.5
> on Windows CE 6.0 (due to the fact that it was jritten for an
> earlier OS) nor vice versa (you cannot use the next KeySoft
> release on current CE version, otherwise it would break
> compatibility).  The last sentence in parenthesis carries a
> significant, symbolic meaning in the context of BrailleNote:
> BrailleNote, as well as other blindness devices, are so-called
> "embedded systems." In other words, devices such as BrailleNote
> running an embedded systems OS such as Windows CE would not
> behave like that of laptops running under say, Windows XP.
> Now, onto your question about compatibility: just because you can
> use KeySoft on other OS does not mean that it will work,
> particularly if the newer OS which the software is going to be
> "ported" i.e.  to be written so that it would work with this OS
> requires both hardware and architectural deviations from what
> we've used to.  In simpler terms, the new KeySoft, using "old"
> instructions/code, will not take advantage of new "demands"
> imposed by this new Windows CE 6.0.  Here are some consequences
> which you could expect from upgrading from CE 4.2 to 6.0:
> a.  You will effectively sacrifice several megabytes of Flash
> (yes, instead of RAM Disk, Flash Disk will be the location for OS
> files).
> b.  You can have up to 2 GB of virtual memory for KeySoft.
> These are some of the consequences here (I won't go into details
> on other changes.
> That's all I have today.  I tried to explain it in simple terms
> (hope it made sense).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date sent: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:53:50 +1300
>>Subject: [Braillenote] Upgrading from ce 4.2 to 6
>
>>Hi Guys.  I have listened to some of the theories being chucked
>>around on this list and on chatts last year that Mr Leigh hoasted
>>and am just wondering how hard it would actually be to upgrade of
>>your own free will? I mean if there is a way to do it without
>>buggering up the bn's braille translator or anything, I would be
>>quite keen to look into it for myself.  Many thanks.  Blake Ison.
>>Vinal
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:28:24 -0500
> From: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] 2 questions
> To: robert cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> 1.  I have never heard it used, but I do not use ir (infrared).
> 2.  Ks could not find a serial number to authorize itself.  This
> happens from time to time, just a glitch like any computer.  A
> basic reset, as you said, fixes it; ks tries again to find
> authorization and this time it can.  A similar thing happens with
> Sendero's GPS, sometimes with the program itself, sometimes with
> the mapping engine.
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: robert cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date sent: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:14:45 +0000
>>Subject: [Braillenote] 2 questions
>
>>hi list.
>
>>I have two questions.
>
>>1.  When, if at all, is the keysoft ir connected.wav file used.
>
>>2.  This only ever happened to me once and i fixed it with a
>>reset with no keys held down.  But the braillenote gave this
>>message: "Serial number required, please contact your
>>distributor." it then made a strange noise and then shut down.
>>What exactly does this message mean.
>
>>Thanks.
>
>>technology: it's great when it works, but rubbish when it
>>doesn't!
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:42:58 -0700
> From: Penny Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] Question About The Mpower
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Seasons greetings to everyone.
>
>
> I had a weird thing happen last night and boy is it annoying me;
> lol.
> While checking and deleating some emails I began getting a
> message of;
> The operation completed successfully.
> I've rebooted and done several things and I can't seem to get rid
> of it.
> So,
> I ask our wise one's what should I do?
>
> My note may show up twice by error.
> It shows that I have two pieces of outgoing mail when only one is
> in the outbox.
>
> Much thanks in advance.
>
>
> !smiles,
> Penny and Billie-Jean
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:48:26 -0500
> From: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] Question About The Mpower
> To: Penny Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Back up your flash disk, pull out ALL removable media, go to the
> main menu, and do a 4-5-6 (jkl) reset by holding down dots 4-5-6
> (or j k and l on a qt model) and pressing then releasing the
> reset button.  Keep holding down the keys until you hear the
> startup music, at which time you should release the keys.  You
> may have to press reset a few more times (the bn may say "system
> files have been updated, press reset").  If so, this is a plain
> reset, not a 4-5-6 reset like before.  A note: when you say
> "rebooting", what do you mean? The bn's os operates much
> differently from that of a pc, and does not, strictly speaking,
> reboot.  What kind of reset are you refering to here?
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Penny Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date sent: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:42:58 -0700
>>Subject: [Braillenote] Question About The Mpower
>
>>Hi Guys,
>
>>Seasons greetings to everyone.
>
>
>>I had a weird thing happen last night and boy is it annoying me;
>>lol.
>>While checking and deleating some emails I began getting a
>>message of;
>>The operation completed successfully.
>>I've rebooted and done several things and I can't seem to get rid
>>of it.
>>So,
>>I ask our wise one's what should I do?
>
>>My note may show up twice by error.
>>It shows that I have two pieces of outgoing mail when only one is
>>in the outbox.
>
>>Much thanks in advance.
>
>
>>!smiles,
>>Penny and Billie-Jean
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:54:31 -0700
> From: Penny Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] Reply To Alex
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Alex,
> Thanks so much.
> I was just refering to the regular reset.
>
> This is one of the reasons why i enjoy this list so much.
>
> Off to get ready for an early anniversary weekend in Branson
> Missouri.
>
> !smiles,
> Pen
>
>
>
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