However, there is a way to get rid of them. Saving a .kwb file as a .brf file or a .kwt or .doc file as a .txt file will get rid of them. Sometimes the no format files (.brf and .txt) hold the line breaks and sometimes they don't. I haven't figured out the pattern yet, but it's certainly worth losing a few new lines if a file is full of format markers.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> To: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:57 PM Subject: re: Deletion Point was Re: [Braillenote] RE: Is there an explanation? Yes, I HATE these!! They serve no purpose that I can see and, as you said, play havoc with text searches. Have a great day, Alex > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <[email protected] >To: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>,"Maurice Sloane" <[email protected]>,<[email protected] >Date sent: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:37:40 -0700 >Subject: Deletion Point was Re: [Braillenote] RE: Is there an explanation? >Yes... I've experienced this too. More often than not, the point is where >there is a format marker, either a font marker or one of those stupid ones >that is denoted $fm that you cannot find, yet it interferes with find. Both >types of format markers hide until you put the cursor on them. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected] >To: "Maurice Sloane" <[email protected]>; ><[email protected]>; <[email protected] >Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 5:13 PM >Subject: re: [Braillenote] RE: Is there an explanation? >I have not found that the entire file is erased, but I find that >with non-keyword files, such as .doc files, sometimes the >contents will be erased if you switch from keyword to another >application or, though it is rare now, when you exit to the >keyword menu or try to save the file with space-s. In the case >of switching tasks, no errors are given but the file contents >will be gone when you open the file again by switching back to >it. In the latter cases, the famous "exception: converter. >Access violation [reading or writing] [what I assume to be a ram >address]" error is displayed, and all text past a point in the >file is gone, though I have not been able to find a system by >which this point is determined. Again, though, this is very rare >in the latest ks versions; in fact, I am not sure when it last >happened. >Have a great day, >Alex >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Maurice Sloane" <[email protected] >>To: "Nicole B. Torcolini" ><[email protected]>,"Braillenote List" ><[email protected] >>Date sent: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:58:21 -0700 >>Subject: [Braillenote] RE: Is there an explanation? >>Hi Nicole, >>There is no known explanation as to why this occurs. These >issues can >>often be very hard to track down and are often solved by a chance >>observation. It was interesting to read KD's observation that >using the >>Thumb keys while exiting a file can cause issues. We will >certainly >>look further into that. >>In your experience is it more likely to occur in any one file >type. For >>example, is it happening only in Keyword Braille files or other >file >>types. >>Maurice >>________________ >>Maurice Sloane >>HumanWare NZ >>Phone: +64 3 384 4555 >>Direct Dial +64 3 940 2223 >>Mobile: +64 21 528 374 >>Email: [email protected] >><mailto:[email protected] >>Website: www.humanware.com >>________________________________ >>From: Nicole B. Torcolini [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2009 7:10 a.m. >>To: Maurice Sloane; Braillenote List >>Subject: Is there an explanation? >>Is there an explanation for why the bn sometimes randomly erases >a file >>when you exit it? You can tell that it's happening because it >takes >>longer to close the file than usual, so, obviously, some process >either >>is or is not happening. >>Nicole >>___ >>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>copy to the list as well. >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[email protected] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
