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Today's Topics:
1. RE: opinions on keysoft 8 (Jamie Pauls)
2. re: opinions on keysoft 8 (Alex Hall)
3. keychat help! (Alex Hall)
4. re: another chat question (John Patrick Houck)
5. keychat and sms (Alex Hall)
6. Re: internet via activesync (mike welty)
7. Re: Maps question with the GPS software. (taraprakash)
8. KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS (Stephen Tacker)
9. Re: gmail setup? (zach, the milk drinker)
10. Re: Cost of Having Scripts Written
(Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
11. Re: Expressing Opinions (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
12. keychat bugs and suggestions (Alex Hall)
13. RE: keychat bugs and suggestions (Joseph Lee)
14. Re: KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS (mike welty)
15. Re: KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS (Alex Hall)
16. Re: RE: BrailleNote frustrations
(Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:06:55 -0500
From: "Jamie Pauls" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] opinions on keysoft 8
To: "'Joshua'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <f7d2b93cdfba440095c5c40d54462...@computer1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Since you asked for opinions, I will give mine. It is my belief that it is
generally a good idea to download the latest firmware of a product because
there are probably stability fixes even if there aren't a lot of new
features that jump out at you. I do not check e-mail or surf the net with
my
BrailleNote so I can't comment on any changes there, and I have not played
with KeyChat. The features I do use do not seem to have been impacted one
way or the other by the upgrade.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joshua
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 7:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] opinions on keysoft 8
Hi list. This is Joshua klander. I have not been on the list for a while,
so
I am wondering what people are thinking about Keysoft 8.
Thank you.
Josh
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:18:36 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: re: [Braillenote] opinions on keysoft 8
To: Joshua <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Keychat is nice, but the interface could do with a few minor
improvements. Other than that, no big bugs or complaints yet.
You still have keynote gold in bookshare brf files, which is good
for me. They did not fix the bug where you sometimes get a
random character at the end of an email, but they did fix the bug
that, in ueb, would speak dots 3-5 as 2-5; the combination now
speaks correctly.
Have a great day,
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua <[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:44:30 -0600
Subject: [Braillenote] opinions on keysoft 8
Hi list. This is Joshua klander. I have not been on the list
for a while, so I am wondering what people are thinking about
Keysoft 8.
Thank you.
Josh
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:09:02 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] keychat help!
To: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi all,
I just reset and connected to my internet. I tried to sign onto
keychat, but the first time I was prompted for all the account
details I had already set up, and then all subsequent times I get
a "failed to sign on" message. It was working perfectly before
the reset. What is going on??
Have a great day,
Alex
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:06:19 -0500
From: John Patrick Houck <[email protected]>
Subject: re: [Braillenote] another chat question
To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello Alex, I thought that was stupid also.
Sincerely,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:56:31 -0400
Subject: [Braillenote] another chat question
Okay, a question I will not be able to answer on my own. Why
does the bn keep specifying "instant messenger contact"? When you
add a contact, when you request information... What other type
of contact is there?
Have a great day,
Alex
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:33:42 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] keychat and sms
To: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi all,
I read that google lets you chat with cell phones. I cannot get
this working, though; when I try to chat with
[email protected] the bn says that the contact is
not available. Of course it is, it is a phone! I want to send an
sms to that contact, but the bn, trying to be helpful and not let
me send to an offline contact, will not let me. Some articles on
the whole sms thing say I need to enable it in my gmail settings,
but I cannot find anywhere to do that. Does anyone know anymore
about this? Thanks.
Have a great day,
Alex
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:10:56 -0400
From: "mike welty" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] internet via activesync
To: "zach, the milk drinker" <[email protected]>, "Kevin Chao"
<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <d7252cd75f614396828536088d605...@mquad>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
make sure your BN has a partnership with the computer, then when you
create the connection on the BN set the device to use to Ethernet. Leave
the
other stuff blank.
Good luck
----- Original Message -----
From: "zach, the milk drinker" <[email protected]>
To: "Kevin Chao" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 16:28
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] internet via activesync
How? Exactly what settings? (For both devices?)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Chao" <[email protected]>
To: "'zach, the milk drinker'" <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] internet via activesync
It is possible to do this through USB.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:braillenote-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of zach, the milk drinker
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] internet via activesync
Hi, is it possible for the BN to connect via an Ethernet connection to
a
laptop that is wirelessly connected to the net?
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:49:44 -0400
From: "taraprakash" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Maps question with the GPS software.
To: "Kevin Chao" <[email protected]>, "'Matthew Bullis'"
<[email protected]>, "'Braillenote List'"
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <0a22f5c31b364959877a1cb8aa721...@tara>
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Thank West and Kevin for providing with these useful suggestions.
I will explore all this during the week end.
Regards
TP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Chao" <[email protected]>
To: "'taraprakash'" <[email protected]>; "'Matthew Bullis'"
<[email protected]>; "'Braillenote List'"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Maps question with the GPS software.
Hi TP,
Rather than attempting to recreate the great documentation that Sendero
Group has made, I will point you to the Audio Tutorial:
http://www.senderogroup.com/supportgps.htm
I strongly encourage listening to the entire Audio Tutorial as Chris G
from
Sendero Group has done an excellent job at describing the various aspects
of
the GPS. But, to address your section of Virtual mode and Virtual
Exploration, in particular. You will want to move to the heading:
Sendero GPS Audio Tutorial for the BrailleNote by topic. The full
tutorial
is available in the full documentation download.
And, find
Section 7: Virtual Explore and Exploring Routes
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: taraprakash [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:21 AM
To: Kevin Chao; 'Matthew Bullis'; 'Braillenote List'
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Maps question with the GPS software.
Hi all. Can you someone please give me directions to enjoy a virtual
walk
from home or any other location for that matter? The gps help is not
very
helpful in that. I don't have a GPS yet, so I would like to try things
in
virtual mode.
Regards
TP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Chao" <[email protected]>
To: "'Matthew Bullis'" <[email protected]>; "'Braillenote List'"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Maps question with the GPS software.
> The way the structure of Maps that are preconfigured for you works
is
> that
> your home state will be placed in a Maps folder and all other regions
will
> be in folders, such as Maps1WestCoast, Maps2Mountain and etc. Youcan
> change
> from the Mapssfolder to these other regions by pressing O for GPS
Options,
> M
> for Map and POI Directory, selecting the drive, selecting the proper
> folder
> and confirming it.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:braillenote-
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:37 AM
>> To: Braillenote List
>> Subject: [Braillenote] Maps question with the GPS software.
>>
>> Hello, so I started learning how to use the GPS software which came
>> with my
>> Braille Note, and find it fascinating. I am having a problem though.
My
>> local foundation who bought this unit for me thoughtfully set up the
>> software, installing all of the maps onto the card. I've read the
>> manual
>> thoroughly, but cannot find an answer to the problem which presents
>> itself.
>> I'd like to go exploring towns I'll not get the chance to visit in
>> other
>> states. When I switch to virtual mode with the reciever connected,
it
>> only
>> selects my default state as Arizona, where I live. First of all, how
>> does my
>> Braille Note know that I'm in Arizona, and where is that default
>> setting,
>> and how do I change states? I know that all of the states maps are
>> physically on the card, but there seems to be no way to tell the
>> software
>> that I do have maps for other states. I seem to remember trying this
>> feature
>> briefly before when I first got the BN a year and a half ago, and it
>> worked
>> then. Any help?
>> Thanks a lot.
>> Matthew
>>
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:12:34 +0100
From: "Stephen Tacker" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <74d607c50fda486dbf05672720253...@dellpc>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi folks, especially those of you who have successfully installed as I
haven't been able to yet.
Firstly, having only 6mb left in Flash Disk, does that mean I don't have
enough space to install the upgrade? I managed to install the product key
but whe n I press reset with keys four and five together, nothing happens
even after a minute?
Do I need eboot.bin as I cannot find it anywhere?
Any other thoughts please?
Cheers, Steve
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:23:53 -0600
From: "zach, the milk drinker" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] gmail setup?
To: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <38f3fc21c7784ca0acebd407a49cd...@lahssslaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
Pop server = pop.gmail.com, secure connection, port 995
SMTP server = smtp.gmail.com, requires authentication and ssl, port 465
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] gmail setup?
Hi all,
I just made a gmail account in anticipation of keychat. How do I
set up keymail to send and receive my gmail messages, and can I
send from anywhere, or just my home (as is the case with my
current provider)? I know there are ssl settings, but I am not
sure what they are. Thanks.
Have a great day,
Alex
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:20:33 -0600
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc."
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Cost of Having Scripts Written
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <559baffe2cc144ec806098420e904...@valtd>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Hi Brian:
I've sometimes come to the numbing realization that I am in the wrong
business. I should have LEARNED THE ART AND CRAFT OF PROGRAMMING and get
busy with script writing. Perhaps I'd be able to charge say, $35 an hour
and get the end user fully involved. And who knows, if the script needed
helps someone else to become GAINFULLY EMPLOYED, then I may jolly well
write
it for free choosing to make that my own contribution towards the
individual's success story. 200 hours were certainly ridiculous and
outrageous, the negotiations talled!
Now, I welcome anyone who will TAKE A HARD LOOK at the software I need
scripting for. I'd pay anyone anywhere in the world for such a service
even
if it means EXPORTING THE JOB abroad, something we Americans hate,
<smile>!!
Private contacts on this one preferred, much thanks!
Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:28:25 -0600
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc."
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Expressing Opinions
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <5785d8ab00fc40999ce001f378325...@valtd>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
Hello Kim:
You should NEVER SETTLE for less! You have a right to the very best.
This,
in my opinion, is what equality is all about.
Whether these developers listen to our voices or choose to ignore us, we
MUST KEEP pushing and nudging them as hard as we can until they do the
right
thing: One voice at a time will do it! If we're BANNED FROM THEIR LISTS,
they can't ban us from all other public fora where our voices will pretty
soon be heard by a sympathetic ear!
Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:41:50 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] keychat bugs and suggestions
To: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi all,
I just sent the below to hw support (this many emails to support
has to be a record for me!) Has anyone noticed any other bugs or
missing features?
After using Keychat for about a day, I have run across some bugs,
as well as features that are missing that I feel should be added
to make Keychat a more standard IM client. I realize that some
of the following are just my opinion, especially the proposed UI
changes. Note that numbers 13 and 15 were reported to Humanware
tech support earlier today by myself. Number 15 was partially
duplicated (the1 or 0 was spoken) but the tech support rep did
not switch to UEB. I do not have his name, sorry.
1. When logging in: the item that lets you log in is placed in
the status menu, which does not make sense. Pressing i from the
availability menu does nothing; you must navigate to the item and
press enter. Similarly, the instant messenger settings in the
options menu are not opened by pressing i, only moved to, unlike
every other menu in Keysoft which opens an option or submenu when
its first letter is pressed.
2. There is no way to check your login status (quickly see if
you are online). In fact, there is no way at all, quickly or
otherwise; to log off, you must turn off your internet
connection, turn off the machine, or reset.
3. You cannot set your status to be invisible, offline, or any
other setting that would let you see who is online but not get
messaged.
4. There is no file transfer possible.
5. Even when not signed in, you are still allowed to try to
start a conversation. Since contacts are not locally stored, why
is this possible? You should either be prompted to connect to a
network first, or the "start conversation" option should be
removed when no internet connection is detected.
6. The options item should be renamed to "settings" or "setup",
since all other programs with any settings option do this
(keyword, keymail, keyplan, media center).
7. Some options in the keychat menu and its submenus are
capitalized while the rest are not.
8. No personal messages are supported. If XMPP will allow this,
it is a big part of messaging.
9. I think that space-5-6 and space-2-3 should move forward and
back through a conversation by message. Currently only movement
by line is supported, which is fine unless someone writes more
than one sentence.
10. When writing a message while reviewing messages, the first
character typed is translated oddly. When the braille code is
set to UEB and the computer braille table is set to Spanish, a
capital sign shows up as dots 4-5-6, a period shows up as dots
1-6, and so on. After the first character translation is okay.
11. Sometimes, in a conversation, the "msg?" prompt is there,
and sometimes it is not; pick one, either display it all the time
or get rid of it.
12. No timestamp option is available for messages. This should
be a toggle so that you do not always have to see them, but if
you return to an open conversation you can turn them on to see
when the last message was.
13. Messaging contacts whose status is offline (what the bn
calls "unavailable) should be allowed. First, this lets you send
a message at that moment if you know you will not have time later
and the contact can see the message whenever they log in.
Second, this lets you message sms contacts, something Google Talk
supports but the bn does not.
14. Instead of just the contact name in the contact list, a
customizable view should be given. Then a contact could be, for
example:
name (status): personal message
or simply:
name: status
Note that the punctuation changed; I would think this would be
part of the customization.
15. In UEB, pressing y or n does not change the "automatically
connect" prompt in the instant messaging settings. Switching to
grade 2 will fix this. Also, when setting this option, the bn
says "1" or "0" (for yes or no respectively) in grade 2, but "dot
2" and "3 5 6" inUEB; translation from UEB to computer braille is
probably being mixed up, so no valid number is given to the
prompt, plus these numbers should not be spoken at all.
16. I think that the chat hotkey, backspace-enter-c, should open
your list of contacts, not just the keychat menu. At least have
this hotkey configurable; it seems sensible that a chat hotkey
would place me in a position to immediately start chatting, but
others may like it the way it is.
17. Incoming messages are not always spoken automatically when
in a conversation.
18. Not really a problem, but strange: when reviewing saved
conversation files, the .kwt extension is spoken and displayed,
even though this extension is usually hidden, like .kwb is.
I recommend a menu something like this:
new conversation: works as "start new conversation" does now,
except that if you are not connected to the internet, you are
prompted to do so before continuing.
review past conversations: same as current item
availability: offers a list of options, including some sort of
"invisible" option. Could users make their own settings for
this?
personal message: if XMPP supports this, it is a great way to
convey your status or what you are doing; contacts in the contact
list should also have their messages shown
log in/out: if logged in, pressing l from the keychat menu will
log you out (and the option will just be "log out"), and vice
versa if you are not logged in.
setup options
account settings: username, password, server, server port,
setting to log on either at internet connection start, at keychat
start, or only upon explicit login command
general settings: same as current
Phrase Management: same as current, but notice the rename; this
is because when I think "phrase", I press p, not m for "manage".
The concept of intuitive keypresses working is what keysoft is
built on, and keychat does not do a good job of keeping up this
vital tradition. This is also why I propose the "my
availability" menu be changed to just "availability".
Have a great day,
Alex
------------------------------
Message: 13
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:54:01 -0700
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] keychat bugs and suggestions
To: "'Alex Hall'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Alex,
I've seen several of your issues myself, particularly with capitalization.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] keychat bugs and suggestions
Hi all,
I just sent the below to hw support (this many emails to support
has to be a record for me!) Has anyone noticed any other bugs or
missing features?
After using Keychat for about a day, I have run across some bugs,
as well as features that are missing that I feel should be added
to make Keychat a more standard IM client. I realize that some
of the following are just my opinion, especially the proposed UI
changes. Note that numbers 13 and 15 were reported to Humanware
tech support earlier today by myself. Number 15 was partially
duplicated (the1 or 0 was spoken) but the tech support rep did
not switch to UEB. I do not have his name, sorry.
1. When logging in: the item that lets you log in is placed in
the status menu, which does not make sense. Pressing i from the
availability menu does nothing; you must navigate to the item and
press enter. Similarly, the instant messenger settings in the
options menu are not opened by pressing i, only moved to, unlike
every other menu in Keysoft which opens an option or submenu when
its first letter is pressed.
2. There is no way to check your login status (quickly see if
you are online). In fact, there is no way at all, quickly or
otherwise; to log off, you must turn off your internet
connection, turn off the machine, or reset.
3. You cannot set your status to be invisible, offline, or any
other setting that would let you see who is online but not get
messaged.
4. There is no file transfer possible.
5. Even when not signed in, you are still allowed to try to
start a conversation. Since contacts are not locally stored, why
is this possible? You should either be prompted to connect to a
network first, or the "start conversation" option should be
removed when no internet connection is detected.
6. The options item should be renamed to "settings" or "setup",
since all other programs with any settings option do this
(keyword, keymail, keyplan, media center).
7. Some options in the keychat menu and its submenus are
capitalized while the rest are not.
8. No personal messages are supported. If XMPP will allow this,
it is a big part of messaging.
9. I think that space-5-6 and space-2-3 should move forward and
back through a conversation by message. Currently only movement
by line is supported, which is fine unless someone writes more
than one sentence.
10. When writing a message while reviewing messages, the first
character typed is translated oddly. When the braille code is
set to UEB and the computer braille table is set to Spanish, a
capital sign shows up as dots 4-5-6, a period shows up as dots
1-6, and so on. After the first character translation is okay.
11. Sometimes, in a conversation, the "msg?" prompt is there,
and sometimes it is not; pick one, either display it all the time
or get rid of it.
12. No timestamp option is available for messages. This should
be a toggle so that you do not always have to see them, but if
you return to an open conversation you can turn them on to see
when the last message was.
13. Messaging contacts whose status is offline (what the bn
calls "unavailable) should be allowed. First, this lets you send
a message at that moment if you know you will not have time later
and the contact can see the message whenever they log in.
Second, this lets you message sms contacts, something Google Talk
supports but the bn does not.
14. Instead of just the contact name in the contact list, a
customizable view should be given. Then a contact could be, for
example:
name (status): personal message
or simply:
name: status
Note that the punctuation changed; I would think this would be
part of the customization.
15. In UEB, pressing y or n does not change the "automatically
connect" prompt in the instant messaging settings. Switching to
grade 2 will fix this. Also, when setting this option, the bn
says "1" or "0" (for yes or no respectively) in grade 2, but "dot
2" and "3 5 6" inUEB; translation from UEB to computer braille is
probably being mixed up, so no valid number is given to the
prompt, plus these numbers should not be spoken at all.
16. I think that the chat hotkey, backspace-enter-c, should open
your list of contacts, not just the keychat menu. At least have
this hotkey configurable; it seems sensible that a chat hotkey
would place me in a position to immediately start chatting, but
others may like it the way it is.
17. Incoming messages are not always spoken automatically when
in a conversation.
18. Not really a problem, but strange: when reviewing saved
conversation files, the .kwt extension is spoken and displayed,
even though this extension is usually hidden, like .kwb is.
I recommend a menu something like this:
new conversation: works as "start new conversation" does now,
except that if you are not connected to the internet, you are
prompted to do so before continuing.
review past conversations: same as current item
availability: offers a list of options, including some sort of
"invisible" option. Could users make their own settings for
this?
personal message: if XMPP supports this, it is a great way to
convey your status or what you are doing; contacts in the contact
list should also have their messages shown
log in/out: if logged in, pressing l from the keychat menu will
log you out (and the option will just be "log out"), and vice
versa if you are not logged in.
setup options
account settings: username, password, server, server port,
setting to log on either at internet connection start, at keychat
start, or only upon explicit login command
general settings: same as current
Phrase Management: same as current, but notice the rename; this
is because when I think "phrase", I press p, not m for "manage".
The concept of intuitive keypresses working is what keysoft is
built on, and keychat does not do a good job of keeping up this
vital tradition. This is also why I propose the "my
availability" menu be changed to just "availability".
Have a great day,
Alex
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:30:18 -0400
From: "mike welty" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS
To: "Stephen Tacker" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <98ac4e0471924472973f723f30443...@mquad>
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first, are you following all the directions, mainly do you have the unit
plugged in to the adaptor.
Second, have you formatted the card correctly and have the nk.bin file in
the route directory of the card.
What is the size of the card you're doing the upgrade off of? Just asking
these questions to see what you've done and such so I can see what you may
be doing wrong or what may have been over looked.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Tacker" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 07:12
Subject: [Braillenote] KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS
Hi folks, especially those of you who have successfully installed as I
haven't been able to yet.
Firstly, having only 6mb left in Flash Disk, does that mean I don't have
enough space to install the upgrade? I managed to install the product key
but whe n I press reset with keys four and five together, nothing happens
even after a minute?
Do I need eboot.bin as I cannot find it anywhere?
Any other thoughts please?
Cheers, Steve
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:12:47 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS
To: "mike welty" <[email protected]>, [email protected],
[email protected]
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Also, make sure you hold down the 4 and 5 keys, but press reset
and release it, do not hold it as well. Also, because of the gps
installation, you may want to clear off more space on your flash
disk. This should not stop the upgrade, but it will make your
life easier. Finally, did you format your sd card before putting
the nk.bin file on it, is that file in the none folder (not in
any folder), and is it 48.8mb or somewhere around there?
Have a great day,
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: "mike welty" <[email protected]
To: "Stephen Tacker"
<[email protected]>,<[email protected]
Date sent: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:30:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS
first, are you following all the directions, mainly do you have
the unit
plugged in to the adaptor.
Second, have you formatted the card correctly and have the nk.bin
file in
the route directory of the card.
What is the size of the card you're doing the upgrade off of?
Just asking
these questions to see what you've done and such so I can see
what you may
be doing wrong or what may have been over looked.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Tacker" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 07:12
Subject: [Braillenote] KEYSOFT 8 - A FEW QUESTIONS
Hi folks, especially those of you who have successfully installed
as I
haven't been able to yet.
Firstly, having only 6mb left in Flash Disk, does that mean I
don't have
enough space to install the upgrade? I managed to install the
product key
but whe n I press reset with keys four and five together, nothing
happens
even after a minute?
Do I need eboot.bin as I cannot find it anywhere?
Any other thoughts please?
Cheers, Steve
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:03:26 -0600
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc."
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] RE: BrailleNote frustrations
To: <[email protected]>
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Dear Rose:
No m'am! I was listening for specific responses to Alex's questions, but
as
is always the case with blindness products, the answers will have to come
from some other source assuming that that other source does remember to
address the issues raised at all.
I've just received one bad news: I bought a used MPower for $2,000; the
Braille dots are sort of weak so I sent it in to get a quote to have it
fixed. It has been out of the warranty period, but it does have ONE
UPGRADE
COUNT to Version 8 of Keysoft. Now guess what? The batteries cost $87, I
bet Batteries Plus would be far cheaper and do a SUPERB job, but I chose
the
SURGICAL ROUTE anyway. The Braille WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED at a cost of
nearly $1,900, and $50 for shipping. Total cost is somewhere around
$2,138--I have requested for the quote to be E-Mailed to me. I plan to
POST
IT to the list once I receive it.
Sufficing to say, perhaps the time to DONATE THE ANTIQUITY to the nearest
museum might be here as I don't see me or my company paying that much on
the
MPower's surgery.
Well, thank God I have a backup--the BrailleSense Plus! Has issues too,
but
CERTAINLY LIVES UP to its name in terms of functionality.
Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado
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