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RE: deleting hidden files in keymail (Joseph Lee) > 10. Re: deleting hidden files in keymail (Sharon S) > 11. a question about the apex ([email protected]) > 12. RE: a question about the apex (Joseph Lee) > 13. Re: a question about the apex (Michael Welty) > 14. Re: a question about the apex (Tom Lange) > 15. KeySoft Checkbook: looking for developers... (Joseph Lee) > 16. Re: KeySoft Checkbook: looking for developers... (Carol Pearson) > 17. speech synthesizers (Crystal French) > 18. RE: speech synthesizers (Joseph Lee) > 19. RE: KeySoft Checkbook: looking for developers... (Joseph Lee) > 20. Re: speech synthesizers (Alex Hall) > 21. HERE'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION FOR YOU! (Carol Pearson) > 22. Re: KeySoft Checkbook: looking for developers... (Carol Pearson) > 23. Re: speech synthesizers (Carol Pearson) > 24. OT Made an Error on a book (Christina Mitchell) > 25. Re: OT Made an Error on a book (Alex Hall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:26:58 -0400 > From: jd <[email protected]> > Subject: re: [Braillenote] Braille note with NFB newsline > To: "Dezman Jackson" <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > > > Hi: > > I receive several newspapers each day from Newsline; > they arrive like clockwork into my BrailleNote's > email box. There are several ways to read your > news. I used to copy my papers to a file, but now > find that by using the book reader and looking into > the KeyMail folder on the flash drive will show you > all the papers that have come to your email inbox. > Pressing enter on any one of these will open up your > paper. > > I love this. You can read your papers on the bus or > while waiting for an appointment. > > Best of luck. > > > > JD Townsend > Helping the light dependent to see. > > > Daytona Beach, Florida, Earth > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:30:10 -0400 > From: Lori Scharff <[email protected]> > Subject: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > To: Braillenote Humanware <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Everyone > I am using an apex. I recall that on the bn keysoft 8 you should > delete the attachments "clean them out" of the keymail system. > Is this still necessary when using my Apex with 9.2? > If so can someone let me know how to do this? > Take care. > Lori > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:49:39 -0400 > From: Alex Hall <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > To: Lori Scharff <[email protected]> > Cc: Braillenote Humanware <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Not as much since you have so much more room on the apex's flash disk. > However, it can never hurt, and is relatively easy to do. > > 1. Go to main menu > file manager > directory, and select the flash disk. > > 2. Go down to the keymail folder, but do not press enter. Instead, > press space-5-6. You will see "list of folders on flash disk". This is > not accurate, as you are actually now in a list of all the folders > stored inside the keymail folder. > > 3. Press space until you land on "attachments", then press enter twice > to get to "list of all files in attachments folder". > > 4. Press space-x until you see "list of all, including hidden, > files...". Move through the list, finding and marking all the files to > be deleted, then press space-1-4 once you have selected all the files > you want to erase. You could also erase each file as you come to it, > but that is a lot more prompting. > > On 8/16/10, Lori Scharff <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Everyone >> I am using an apex. I recall that on the bn keysoft 8 you should >> delete the attachments "clean them out" of the keymail system. >> Is this still necessary when using my Apex with 9.2? >> If so can someone let me know how to do this? >> Take care. >> Lori >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:00:53 -0700 > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Braillenote] PBWorks: Version 7.1 Beta 1 is here! > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi BrailleNote users, Humanware staff and others, > I'm delighted to announce the opening of public beta cycle for yet another > PBWorks version - now at version 7.1! As with any public betas, I welcome > your comments (mostly with mistakes that I need to fix, feature suggestions > and others) so that I can incorporate these into next version - scheduled to > be released before end of this month. > New in this version include: > * Updated Command Summary table, including basic DAISY navigation commands. > * Comparison page on blindness PDA's as of 2010. > * Incorporating HW article on using BN as a Braille display. > As of public beta 1: > * The command summary table has been updated. > * The PDA comparison page is now up on the site (under Featured Items > section). > At least that's for now. As time goes by, I'll add basic foundations for > Braille display article, incorporate Melissa H.'s notes on moving files from > BN to laptop and others. Thanks. > The URL is, as it has been, braillenote.pbworks.com. > Cheers, > Joseph (UCR) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:13:29 -0700 > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Braillenote] Checkbook documentation needed > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi folks, > Does anyone have the documentation for Blazie Checkbook for BNS family? If > you do, could you send it to me so that I and other programmers can work on > a desktop version and later port it to KeySoft if SDK becomes available? > Thanks. > Cheers, > Joseph (UCR) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:17:42 -1000 > From: jim gammon <[email protected]> > Subject: [Braillenote] Braillenote display exercise > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thanks to all who sent me information about the display exercise > command. I remember how I came to find that command in the first > place. > I had just gotten my Apex and decided to explore the support > information commands and the only one that worked was the x > which exercises the braille display. the other ones that used to > indicate battery calibration levels and so-forth are no longer > there. Thanks again! Jim > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:48:43 +0930 > From: peter greco <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Alex > Great information! > Have deleted many files, where would have they come from? > Best > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Hall <[email protected] > To: Lori Scharff <[email protected] > Date sent: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:49:39 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > > Not as much since you have so much more room on the apex's flash > disk. > However, it can never hurt, and is relatively easy to do. > > 1. Go to main menu > file manager > directory, and select the > flash disk. > > 2. Go down to the keymail folder, but do not press enter. > Instead, > press space-5-6. You will see "list of folders on flash disk". > This is > not accurate, as you are actually now in a list of all the > folders > stored inside the keymail folder. > > 3. Press space until you land on "attachments", then press enter > twice > to get to "list of all files in attachments folder". > > 4. Press space-x until you see "list of all, including hidden, > files...". Move through the list, finding and marking all the > files to > be deleted, then press space-1-4 once you have selected all the > files > you want to erase. You could also erase each file as you come to > it, > but that is a lot more prompting. > > On 8/16/10, Lori Scharff <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Everyone > I am using an apex. I recall that on the bn keysoft 8 you > should > delete the attachments "clean them out" of the keymail system. > Is this still necessary when using my Apex with 9.2? > If so can someone let me know how to do this? > Take care. > Lori > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:03:25 -0500 > From: Malaina VanderWal <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > > I tried finding the QT equivalent but couldn't find it. > Malaina > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: peter greco <[email protected] > To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Date sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:48:43 +0930 > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > > Hi Alex > Great information! > Have deleted many files, where would have they come from? > Best > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Hall <[email protected] > To: Lori Scharff <[email protected] > Date sent: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:49:39 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > > Not as much since you have so much more room on the apex's flash > disk. > However, it can never hurt, and is relatively easy to do. > > 1. Go to main menu > file manager > directory, and select the > flash disk. > > 2. Go down to the keymail folder, but do not press enter. > Instead, > press space-5-6. You will see "list of folders on flash disk". > This is > not accurate, as you are actually now in a list of all the > folders > stored inside the keymail folder. > > 3. Press space until you land on "attachments", then press enter > twice > to get to "list of all files in attachments folder". > > 4. Press space-x until you see "list of all, including hidden, > files...". Move through the list, finding and marking all the > files to > be deleted, then press space-1-4 once you have selected all the > files > you want to erase. You could also erase each file as you come to > it, > but that is a lot more prompting. > > On 8/16/10, Lori Scharff <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Everyone > I am using an apex. I recall that on the bn keysoft 8 you > should > delete the attachments "clean them out" of the keymail system. > Is this still necessary when using my Apex with 9.2? > If so can someone let me know how to do this? > Take care. > Lori > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:07:25 -0700 > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > To: "'Malaina VanderWal'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > The qT commands are: > >From File manager, go to directory, then select Flash Disk then space > through list of folders until KeyMail is displayed. Then press RIGHT ARROW > to enter subfolders of KeyMail, find Attachments then press ENTER twice. > Then to delete files, press CTRL+I. > Cheers, > Josehp > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Malaina > VanderWal > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:03 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > > I tried finding the QT equivalent but couldn't find it. > Malaina > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: peter greco <[email protected] > To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Date sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:48:43 +0930 > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > > Hi Alex > Great information! > Have deleted many files, where would have they come from? > Best > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Hall <[email protected] > To: Lori Scharff <[email protected] > Date sent: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:49:39 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > > Not as much since you have so much more room on the apex's flash > disk. > However, it can never hurt, and is relatively easy to do. > > 1. Go to main menu > file manager > directory, and select the > flash disk. > > 2. Go down to the keymail folder, but do not press enter. > Instead, > press space-5-6. You will see "list of folders on flash disk". > This is > not accurate, as you are actually now in a list of all the > folders > stored inside the keymail folder. > > 3. Press space until you land on "attachments", then press enter > twice > to get to "list of all files in attachments folder". > > 4. Press space-x until you see "list of all, including hidden, > files...". Move through the list, finding and marking all the > files to > be deleted, then press space-1-4 once you have selected all the > files > you want to erase. You could also erase each file as you come to > it, > but that is a lot more prompting. > > On 8/16/10, Lori Scharff <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Everyone > I am using an apex. I recall that on the bn keysoft 8 you > should > delete the attachments "clean them out" of the keymail system. > Is this still necessary when using my Apex with 9.2? > If so can someone let me know how to do this? > Take care. > Lori > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:10:53 +1000 > From: "Sharon S" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] deleting hidden files in keymail > To: "Malaina VanderWal" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <dce91bdfffdf42bfb74ec47562573...@sharonnotebook> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi,I will try and translate for you. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > 1. Go to main menu > file manager > directory, and select the flash disk. > > 2. Go down to the keymail folder, but do not press enter. > Instead, > press space-5-6. You will see "list of folders on flash disk". > This is > not accurate, as you are actually now in a list of all the > folders > stored inside the keymail folder. > > QT: right arrow > > 3. Press space until you land on "attachments", then press enter > twice > to get to "list of all files in attachments folder". > > 4. Press space-x until you see "list of all, including hidden, > files...". > > QT: read X > > Move through the list, finding and marking all the > files to > be deleted, then press space-1-4 once you have selected all the > files > you want to erase. You could also erase each file as you come to > it, > but that is a lot more prompting. > > QT: control I (I think) > > Hope this helps and sorry if I got the last one wrong but it has been awhile > since I have done this on my QT and I only just got my Apex today and > haven't been able to set it up for email yet. > > >From Shaz. > BN QT Apex and PK user > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:39:52 +0100 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [Braillenote] a question about the apex > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Is the Braillenote Apex easier to upgrade than the M-power? > When I have upgraded any software on my Braillenote I have sent it in to > Humanware because one time I tried to upgrade Keysoft my upgrade didn't > take, possibly due to getting the timing correct when doing the reset and > holding down the necessary Braill keys. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:54:11 -0700 > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] a question about the apex > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi, > Yes - I'd say way better experience than that of the mPower. There is no > more limits on what type of device to use, as well as device memory > limitations are gone. I eventually plan to produce a podcast on how Apex > upgrades are donw as opposed to the mPower - but that will not be ready > until mid-September. > For future reference: What keyboard type do you have or plan to have, as > well as the Braille display length? That way those who have your > configuration can help you better. > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Braillenote] a question about the apex > > Is the Braillenote Apex easier to upgrade than the M-power? > When I have upgraded any software on my Braillenote I have sent it in to > Humanware because one time I tried to upgrade Keysoft my upgrade didn't > take, possibly due to getting the timing correct when doing the reset and > holding down the necessary Braill keys. > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:00:08 -0400 > From: Michael Welty <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] a question about the apex > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > it souds a lot easier to me, I'd read the user guide for the details. > > On Aug 17, 2010, at 2:39 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Is the Braillenote Apex easier to upgrade than the M-power? >> When I have upgraded any software on my Braillenote I have sent it in to >> Humanware because one time I tried to upgrade Keysoft my upgrade didn't >> take, possibly due to getting the timing correct when doing the reset and >> holding down the necessary Braill keys. >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:47:21 -0700 > From: "Tom Lange" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] a question about the apex > To: "Michael Welty" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi all, > Yes, upgrading the Apex is much simpler than it was with the MPower. If you > want to install an upgrade, put the package on the root of an SD card or USB > thumb drive, then insert the card or drive into the Apex. You'll be asked > to do a standard reset, and when the Apex reboots, you're then asked if you > want to install software? Answer by entering Y and the installation > proceeds. When it's complete, you do another reset and it's done. Piece of > cake. There's no more worrying about hunting for that old 512mb card you > had lying around somewhere. > > Tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Welty" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] a question about the apex > > > it souds a lot easier to me, I'd read the user guide for the details. > > On Aug 17, 2010, at 2:39 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Is the Braillenote Apex easier to upgrade than the M-power? >> When I have upgraded any software on my Braillenote I have sent it in to >> Humanware because one time I tried to upgrade Keysoft my upgrade didn't >> take, possibly due to getting the timing correct when doing the reset and >> holding down the necessary Braill keys. >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:51:02 -0700 > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for developers... > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi BrailleNote users, Humanware staff and others, > As a fun project and as a way of giving back to the community, I and Alex > Hall decided to write the KeySoft emulation of Blazie notetakers' Checkbook > program. In this respect, we need help - especially from users who are C++ > or Java programmers in helping us out with this project, as well as words > from BrailleNote users as to what features should we the developers add in > this program. > As of now, the tentative plan is: > * Create a mini database, or a container of checks, each with check number, > check amount, recipient and comments. > * Allow users to add new checks, view their current balance and a history of > checks. > At least for now - something similar to Money Talks technology with > interface suited for KeySoft. Looking forward to hearing from you. > Cheers, > Joseph (UCR) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:59:17 +0100 > From: "Carol Pearson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for > developers... > To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <f5edb16a6da949689eb4a5ff460db...@fabian2> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Joseph, > > Here in the UK we have a date when cheques will cease. Yes, it's a few > years hence, but it is going to happen ... > > Meantime, it's a good little project for you to work on and I wholeheartedly > support it. > > Don't forget us UK users, and those in Australia. I'm talking about pound > signs specifically here ... As long as it works, I'll be happy to play a > dummy run, though in reality I just don't use cheques these days. > > -- > Carol > [email protected] > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:51 PM > Subject: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for > developers... > >> Hi BrailleNote users, Humanware staff and others, >> As a fun project and as a way of giving back to the >> community, I and Alex Hall decided to write the KeySoft >> emulation of Blazie notetakers' Checkbook program. In >> this respect, we need help - especially from users who >> are C++ or Java programmers in helping us out with this >> project, as well as words from BrailleNote users as to >> what features should we the developers add in this >> program. >> As of now, the tentative plan is: >> * Create a mini database, or a container of checks, each >> with check number, check amount, recipient and comments. >> * Allow users to add new checks, view their current >> balance and a history of checks. >> At least for now - something similar to Money Talks >> technology with interface suited for KeySoft. Looking >> forward to hearing from you. >> Cheers, >> Joseph (UCR) >> >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, >> visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:58:37 -0500 > From: "Crystal French" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Braillenote] speech synthesizers > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <4a78b88f764c41c3b89c4f0d18ce4...@french> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > I am still waiting the arrival of the Apex, but am reviewing the manual. > > Somewhere along the way when I was still reviewing my choices for a Braille > note taker, someone commented that using the Keynote Gold synthesiser was > preferable to using Eloquence because it was not as resource intensive. > > I was just wondering if this is true? > > Thanks. > Crystal > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:04:21 -0700 > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] speech synthesizers > To: "'Crystal French'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Crystal, > Yes - it is - rather, it used to be. On the Apex, it would not matter; but > on other platforms, it would, as Eloquence uses about 40 to 50% more memory > (or more) when used - which was the common source of "not enough memory" > error. > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Crystal French > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:59 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Braillenote] speech synthesizers > > Hi, > I am still waiting the arrival of the Apex, but am reviewing the manual. > > Somewhere along the way when I was still reviewing my choices for a Braille > note taker, someone commented that using the Keynote Gold synthesiser was > preferable to using Eloquence because it was not as resource intensive. > > I was just wondering if this is true? > > Thanks. > Crystal > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:06:45 -0700 > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for > developers... > To: "'Carol Pearson'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Carol, > Currency conversion... Thanks for reminding me about that. That'll be a > definite feature to have you select money amount in different currencies - > dollar (U.S.), pound sterling (U.K.), Euro (for Europe) and others. As for > discontinuation of checks, I can envision so-called E-Checks replacing > these, which would be a major modification to our code (since I and others > need to adjust how checks are handled)... > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:59 AM > To: Joseph Lee; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for developers... > > Hi Joseph, > > Here in the UK we have a date when cheques will cease. Yes, it's a few > years hence, but it is going to happen ... > > Meantime, it's a good little project for you to work on and I wholeheartedly > > support it. > > Don't forget us UK users, and those in Australia. I'm talking about pound > signs specifically here ... As long as it works, I'll be happy to play a > dummy run, though in reality I just don't use cheques these days. > > -- > Carol > [email protected] > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:51 PM > Subject: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for > developers... > >> Hi BrailleNote users, Humanware staff and others, >> As a fun project and as a way of giving back to the >> community, I and Alex Hall decided to write the KeySoft >> emulation of Blazie notetakers' Checkbook program. In >> this respect, we need help - especially from users who >> are C++ or Java programmers in helping us out with this >> project, as well as words from BrailleNote users as to >> what features should we the developers add in this >> program. >> As of now, the tentative plan is: >> * Create a mini database, or a container of checks, each >> with check number, check amount, recipient and comments. >> * Allow users to add new checks, view their current >> balance and a history of checks. >> At least for now - something similar to Money Talks >> technology with interface suited for KeySoft. Looking >> forward to hearing from you. >> Cheers, >> Joseph (UCR) >> >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, >> visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:08:54 -0400 > From: Alex Hall <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] speech synthesizers > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Yes it is. The Apex can handle it as far as resources, but it still > sounds choppy and bad. I would stick with KNG. Of course, try > Eloquence; some people say they do not notice any problems with > Eloquence, while others (myself included) hate it on the bn platform. > > On 8/17/10, Crystal French <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> I am still waiting the arrival of the Apex, but am reviewing the manual. >> >> Somewhere along the way when I was still reviewing my choices for a >> Braille >> note taker, someone commented that using the Keynote Gold synthesiser was >> preferable to using Eloquence because it was not as resource intensive. >> >> I was just wondering if this is true? >> >> Thanks. >> Crystal >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:10:13 +0100 > From: "Carol Pearson" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Braillenote] HERE'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION FOR YOU! > To: "BrailleNote Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <7577c3f1c3a748a5965994cb5717e...@fabian2> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi all, > > I have a few deaf-blind friends now with the DBC (Deaf-Blind Communicator) > and we're keen to have some chats. > > I know they can use MSN and of course go to EBUDDY, but I'm wondering > whether there's anything else we can do together, bearing in mind that I > have either to use the computer or my Apex. > > If anyone has the relevant experience of both units and could give me some > pointers, this would be most useful. > > I'm particularly interested to learn whether it's possible to the Face to > Face communication, because my finger spelling isn't that fast and I can > write faster! I have a feeling, though, that I may be out of luck here! > > Thanks for any information folk can give. > > -- > Carol > [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:13:12 +0100 > From: "Carol Pearson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for > developers... > To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <a247aee72e92445f90cd72f1a770f...@fabian2> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Great. Thanks Joseph, as always. > > -- > Carol > [email protected] > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > To: "'Carol Pearson'" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, > 2010 5:06 PM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: > looking for developers... > >> Hi Carol, >> Currency conversion... Thanks for reminding me about >> that. That'll be a definite feature to have you select >> money amount in different currencies - dollar (U.S.), >> pound sterling (U.K.), Euro (for Europe) and others. As >> for discontinuation of checks, I can envision so-called >> E-Checks replacing these, which would be a major >> modification to our code (since I and others need to >> adjust how checks are handled)... >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carol Pearson >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:59 AM >> To: Joseph Lee; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for >> developers... >> >> Hi Joseph, >> >> Here in the UK we have a date when cheques will cease. >> Yes, it's a few years hence, but it is going to happen ... >> >> Meantime, it's a good little project for you to work on >> and I wholeheartedly >> >> support it. >> >> Don't forget us UK users, and those in Australia. I'm >> talking about pound signs specifically here ... As long >> as it works, I'll be happy to play a dummy run, though in >> reality I just don't use cheques these days. >> >> -- >> Carol >> [email protected] >> On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a >> >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:51 PM >> Subject: [Braillenote] KeySoft Checkbook: looking for >> developers... >> >>> Hi BrailleNote users, Humanware staff and others, >>> As a fun project and as a way of giving back to the >>> community, I and Alex Hall decided to write the KeySoft >>> emulation of Blazie notetakers' Checkbook program. In >>> this respect, we need help - especially from users who >>> are C++ or Java programmers in helping us out with this >>> project, as well as words from BrailleNote users as to >>> what features should we the developers add in this >>> program. >>> As of now, the tentative plan is: >>> * Create a mini database, or a container of checks, each >>> with check number, check amount, recipient and comments. >>> * Allow users to add new checks, view their current >>> balance and a history of checks. >>> At least for now - something similar to Money Talks >>> technology with interface suited for KeySoft. Looking >>> forward to hearing from you. >>> Cheers, >>> Joseph (UCR) >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>> copy to the list as well. >>> >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [email protected] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, >>> visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:15:34 +0100 > From: "Carol Pearson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] speech synthesizers > To: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <54682e62e6fd487b970c6436303ba...@fabian2> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Alex, > > I seem to think it depends what you're reading. If you're reading > straightforward literary stuff (a book) it's quite good using Eloquence, > which is my preferred speech synth; but I agree that, particularly with > email, it's somewhat choppy. I personally find Eloquence clearer though > even if not so smooth on occasions. > > As you say, we must all try and decide for ourselves which works best. > > -- > Carol > [email protected] > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] speech synthesizers > >> Yes it is. The Apex can handle it as far as resources, >> but it still sounds choppy and bad. I would stick with >> KNG. Of course, try Eloquence; some people say they do >> not notice any problems with Eloquence, while others >> (myself included) hate it on the bn platform. >> >> On 8/17/10, Crystal French <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I am still waiting the arrival of the Apex, but am >>> reviewing the manual. >>> >>> Somewhere along the way when I was still reviewing my >>> choices for a Braille note taker, someone commented that >>> using the Keynote Gold synthesiser was preferable to >>> using Eloquence because it was not as resource >>> intensive. >>> >>> I was just wondering if this is true? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Crystal >>> ___ >>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>> copy to the list as well. >>> >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [email protected] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, >>> visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, >> visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:52:26 -0700 > From: Christina Mitchell <[email protected]> > Subject: [Braillenote] OT Made an Error on a book > To: braillenote <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi all, > I notice that in every bookshare book it says you're not allowed to > modify or delete anything in the material. Last night while reading a > book I was trying to go to the find thinggy where you find certain > pages in the book and accidently hit f instead of space F. I erased > the error but when I exited keybook the bn said document modified save > as word document? I'm worried so will I get in trouble for this > error? I'm so used to just pressing f as that's what I do on nls > books. Bookshare is such a great service that I'd hate to see my > error as a screw up of copyright law. Thanks please write back I'm so > worried. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:59:38 -0400 > From: Alex Hall <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] OT Made an Error on a book > To: Christina Mitchell <[email protected]> > Cc: braillenote <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > No, you are fine. I routinely do find/replaces on my books if there is > an annoying error that consistently messes up the speaking of the > book. > > On 8/17/10, Christina Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> I notice that in every bookshare book it says you're not allowed to >> modify or delete anything in the material. Last night while reading a >> book I was trying to go to the find thinggy where you find certain >> pages in the book and accidently hit f instead of space F. I erased >> the error but when I exited keybook the bn said document modified save >> as word document? I'm worried so will I get in trouble for this >> error? I'm so used to just pressing f as that's what I do on nls >> books. Bookshare is such a great service that I'd hate to see my >> error as a screw up of copyright law. Thanks please write back I'm so >> worried. >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > > ------------------------------ > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > End of Braillenote Digest, Vol 2419, Issue 1 > ******************************************** >
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