Thanks. I'll try this.

Sharon 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Speicher [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:06 AM
To: Sharon Clark; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Erasing Format with the BN




No, you're not necessarily stuck.

Press the outer thumb keys simultaneously until "editing" appears 
on the display.  If you're starting from the default settings, 4 
presses should do it.  (THE display should cycle through 
"automatic", "layout", "reading" and then "editing".

Once you're in editing mode, all embedded codes should show on 
the display while reading the document.  The first tab on a line 
shows up as$t, that is, dots 1-2-4-6 then t with no intervening 
space.  Subsequent tabs on that line show up, progressively, 
as$t2, $t3, etc., without the commas.

When you find a tab code, press the appropriate cursor routing 
button to place the cursor on that character.  You can then 
delete that code as you would any other word: for example, with 
backspace-dots 2-5.  You can also route the cursor to the place 
just to the right of the tab code then press Backspace.

You might then want to route the cursor to what you want to be 
the first character on the line and use the "where is this" 
command --  space with dots 1-5-6 -- to determine whether any 
extra spaces have slipped in during the process.

In principle you should be able to do this much more simply, and 
for a whole document at once, with the global find and replace 
feature: backspace-F, then F for forward or B for back, then 
respond to the "find" and "replace with?" prompts.  However, on 
my Apex, this feature works erratically or not at all, sometimes 
reporting as "not found" strings which show up unambiguously on 
the display when you go to the right place and look for them.  If 
you're working with an mPower, or if your Apex is one where this 
feature actually works,

First: Go into editing mode as described above and look at a 
sample occurrence of the tab character you'll want to remove.  
Determine whether it immediately follows a hard line break or 
whether there are intervening spaces; do the same for the 
locations immediately to the left and to the right of the tab 
code;

Second: From this exploration, determine the "target string, that 
is, the sequence of characters, spaces or codes that you will 
want to search for and change into something else;

Third: Determine what you will want to replace the target string 
with;

Fourth: Initiate global find and replace as described above.  
When prompted for "find?", enter the target string.  For a hard 
line break (shown on the display as dots 1-2-4-6 then a p, with 
no intervening space), enter space with dots 2-6; for a space, 
enter a space (but you may need a "binding" space, for which 
enter space-with-b; I haven't tried this); for a tab, enter space 
with t;

Fifth: Hit enter to indicate the end of the "find?" string, then 
respond to the "replace with?" prompt.

You may also want to have a look in the Advanced Word Processing 
chapter of the manual.  In the Apex manual, for example, see 
section 7.4.2.4 and look at the discussion of "Translation find 
and replace".

It seems to me that the manual contains, somewhere, a list of the 
formatting codes you can search for during find and replace; but 
I'm not finding it right now.

Good luck.


Steve Speicher
421 S.  9th Street, Suite 205
Lincoln, NE 68508
Tel.: (402) 475-8355


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Clark" <[email protected]
To: "'Nicole B.  Torcolini'" 
<[email protected]>,<[email protected]
Date sent: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:26:09 -0400
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Erasing Format with the BN

So, if the BN is not erasing tabs then I'm stuck?

Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole B.  Torcolini [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:22 PM
To: Sharon Clark; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Erasing Format with the BN


Yes and no.  There is not a way to tell the bn to drop all 
formatting, like
in word.  However, you can save it as a BRF file and then resave 
it as a
keyword Braille document.  This can have minor draw backs, 
though,
particularly if the file has grade change markers and language 
change
markers in it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Clark" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:31 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] Erasing Format with the BN


Hello,

Is there a way to zap format with the BrailleNote?  A student of 
mine used
tabs to indent a paper, but cannot seem to remove them although 
the BN beeps
like they have been deleted.  Upon looking at the same wording, 
the tab
indent is still there.

Sharon


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