Alex I think a Computer Science Major is under-selling
yourself!!!
On reflection, is there anything I can do, could have done, to
prevent this problem happening again, apart from backing up the
email c d b?
Cheers
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
To: peter greco <[email protected]
Date sent: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:14:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] what I learned from the evil keymail
databasesaga...
Information like my original message basically comes from putting
together things that hw people say and drawing conclusions from
there,
flushed out by testing on my own unit and, if necessary,
verifying
with others. It definitely also helps to be a computer science
major
and understand a good amount of what goes on under the hood, so
to
speak. Essentially, what people like myself, Joseph, Nicole, and
others do is to take all the information we have (provided by hw,
found out from tests, or even learned from mistakes) and combine
it
into an outline of how keysoft and its parts work, a structure
that is
always being refined as we find out more and as hw changes how
keysoft
works. We (bn geeks) actually find this fun, believe it or not!
On 1/6/11, peter greco <[email protected]> wrote:
Jack, Alex found out the information basically and mainly by
himself!
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: jack and bakey <[email protected]
To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
Date sent: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:10:05 -0600
Subject: re: [Braillenote] what I learned from the evil keymail
databasesaga...
Well I don't know about anyone else of course, but, made perfect
sense to me. Thanks for all the effort Alex. Only thang I do
wonder is why we basically must figure these things out for
ourselves rather than having a humanware representative actually
on list ! answer these types of queries?? True it's a busy list
but it's not that cotton pickin busy. And how long Alex did it
take you to find someone who knew all this? it's terrific info.
You bet! Hope Joseph will find room on his site for it.
Good job
All The best
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
To: bn <[email protected]
Date sent: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:37:37 -0500
Subject: [Braillenote] what I learned from the evil keymail
database saga...
Hi all,
After much phone time both to the person I was helping and to hw
tech
support, I learned a few very important things that everyone who
has
any bn should keep in mind:
1. Your keymail folder will always contain a database called
email
folders.cdb, which is always hidden. However, this is NOT
ALWAYS
your
email database! If deleting and restoring, copying over, and so
on
does not work, try looking in the keylist folder or the none
folder
for an email folders.cdb file. If you find one, move it to
keymail,
replacing the one already there, then try the usual
erase/replace
steps on it.
2. Just because you back up your keymail folder does not mean
you back
up your emails. In the past, email folders.cdb has been put in
a
few
different locations, and keysoft will accept any of them. This
means
that, if you restore an mPower backup to an Apex, your cdb may
in
fact
be in keylist, none, or somewhere else. To make sure you have
the
right one, hit space-i on the cdb file and check the size. If
it
says
48kb, it is an empty database. I know you can hit space-i on
the
email
folders folder (the keylist definition file), but if this file's
database is somewhere else and you do not realize it, the record
count
you get may not be the count of records in the cdb in the same
folder
but rather that of the cdb located in keylist or somewhere else.
Before you go deleting and replacing, it is best to back up your
entire flash disk if you have never messed with the cdb before,
so
that you do not accidentally erase the right file, as I did
(sorry,
Peter!!).
3. As some have pointed out, copying a database to the flash
disk
protects it automatically. This caused me to panic for a moment
when,
after all this, keymail said "access is denied" when we tried to
erase
an email. Make sure that, if you copy a cdb from a backup into
the
keymail (or keylist or keybase) folder, you go find the copy on
the
flash disk and hit backspace-p, then u to unprotect the cdb.
Failure
to do so will result in the "access is denied" message whenever
you
try to do anything other than read from the database.
Hope this helps someone. Sorry if this is a bit technical.
--
Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
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