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>    1. Fwd: [Braillenote] Apex: Various resets and explanations...
>       (Richard Ehrler)
>    2. Daniel Gutz wants to chat (Daniel Gutz)
>    3. our concerns (Josh Gregory)
>    4. Re: Daniel Gutz wants to chat (Kieran L)
>    5. Voice Sense thoughts expanded please Joseph (peter greco)
>    6. Re: still can't download with the Sense products/was    Few
>       PBWorks announcements... (Vicky Collins)
>    7. Re: still can't download with the Sense products/wasFew
>       PBWorks announcements... (Joseph Lee)
>    8. re: our concerns (David Meador)
>    9. BN manual for sale (Snow Bunny)
>   10. re: , problem , receiving , correct , attachments1 ,    cannot ,
>       see , formatting (Linda)
>   11. Re: , problem , receiving , correct , attachments1 ,    cannot ,
>       see , formatting (Alex Hall)
>   12. Re: , problem , receiving , correct , attachments1 ,    cannot ,
>       see , formatting (marisa sposaro)
>   13. Re: , problem , receiving , correct , attachments1 ,    cannot ,
>       see , formatting (Kelby Carlson)
>   14. Re: , problem , receiving , correct , attachments1 ,    cannot ,
>       see , formatting (Josh Gregory)
>   15. Re: , problem , receiving , correct , attachments1 ,    cannot ,
>       see , formatting (Josh Gregory)
>   16. erasing a folder (Chandra Hottinger)
>   17. question on connecting Apex with with Index embosser
>       (Lori Scharff)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 19:31:18 -0600
> From: Richard Ehrler <[email protected]>
> Subject: Fwd: [Braillenote] Apex: Various resets and explanations...
> To: <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <20110403013100.7158.42406.levelstar.mail@icon>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
> Since the topic of Apex resets has been on the list today, I am forwarding
> the
> below information on that subject from an old message. Please do as Joseph
> suggests and be careful with this information. If you have any questions on
> this information, direct them to Joseph because he seems to be the resident
> guru on this equipment.
> Richard Ehrler
>
> ----Forwarded message----
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:15:58 -0800, Joseph Lee wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Since a topic of resets and explanation came up, I thought I'd
> just give a brief overview of what the resets do on the Apex:
>
> There are five resets possible on the Apex (in increasing
> severity): Soft (Warm) Reset, Hard (Hardware) Reset, Clear
> (Registry) Settings, Clean (ROM) Reset and Erase Data.
>
> The Warm Reset is equivalent to restarting a computer.  To perform
> this reset, just press the Reset button on the Apex.
> When this reset is carried out, Apex will attempt to save
> information that it is working on, shutdown KeySoft and restart
> the unit.  When the unit restarts, Bootloader comes up and loads
> the KeySoft image from ROM, displaying "starting keysoft" while
> it is performing its job.
>
> The Hard Reset is equivalent to forcibly shutting down and
> restarting your computer by holding down the power button (don't
> try this on your computer).  To perform this, press and hold the
> Reset button for about five seconds until a beep is heard.  This
> disregards whatever the operating system is doing and forces
> hardware restart to occur.  If a memory intensive task such as
> writing to Flash was occurring when the reset was done, Apex will
> launch Scan Disk and attempt to scan the memory for errors.
>
> The Clear Settings is useful to return KeySoft settings to
> factory defaults.  Not only it erases keysoft.ksd from Flash Disk,
> but also reloads flash files from ROM (those which were most
> likely missing from the ROM image).  To perform this reset, hold
> down DOTS 4-5-6 (JKL) and press the Reset button.  Hold down the
> keyboard keys until about three seconds after the beep sounds.
>
> The Clean Reset not only performs equivalent activity for Clear
> Settings, but it initializes RAM Disk (keysoft system disk) by
> erasing system information stored there and removes any
> extensions you've installed.  (will not affect the licenses).
> When this is done, additional files for proters will be reloaded
> in addition to regular ROM image files.  To perform this reset,
> hold down DOTS 1-2-3 (FDS) while pressing the Reset button.  This
> reset should be done only when advised by HW (likely), since you
> need to reinstall programs.
>
> The ERASE Datai.e.  Flash Disk Format is a hidden command under
> Support Information Mode which will perform Clean Reset and
> format at the same time.  This reset should be carried out if
> cleaning the Apex of unwanted data or personal information is a
> must - will result in loss of data on both RAM Disk and Flash.
> To perform this reset, go to Support Information Mode then press
> BACKSPACE with DOTS 1-2-4-5-6( CTRL+Fn+E).  When the warning
> message appears, press Y to confirm; upon doing this, Apex will
> shut down in order to format the Flash Disk, and when finished,
> will perform Clean Reset.
>
> There's another command, mostly used to restore files for Flash
> Disk from ROM (mostly things which are missing).  To do this, go
> to Support Information Mode then press BACKSPACE with
> R(CTRl+Fn+R).
>
> As I always say in these kind of posts: use these at your own
> risk! A universal caution with resets is that you need to do them
> at appropriate times and when advised by the manual, other users
> and by HW, especially anything more severe than Clear Settings
> reset.  I'd wish to talk about what really happens while Apex is
> booting, but because of technical nature of it, I'd rather not
> write about it for now (just that it goes through what any
> computer would go through).
>
> Hope this helps.  My apologies (mostly at HW) if I'm giving out
> info that I'm not supposed to...
>
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 21:02:39 -0700
> From: Daniel Gutz <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] Daniel Gutz wants to chat
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I've been using Google Talk and thought you might like to try it out.
> We can use it to call each other for free over the internet. Here's an
> invitation to download Google Talk. Give it a try!
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Daniel Gutz wants to stay in better touch using some of Google's coolest new
> products.
>
> If you already have Gmail or Google Talk, visit:
> http://mail.google.com/mail/b-d63c31ca8b-e4d12f6b4f-8jAB_5xQg6zMfKpux-DQRz2zDaY
> You'll need to click this link to be able to chat with Daniel Gutz.
>
> To get Gmail - a free email account from Google with over 2,800 megabytes of
> storage - and chat with Daniel Gutz, visit:
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>
> Gmail offers:
> - Instant messaging right inside Gmail
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>
> All this, and its yours for free. But wait, there's more! By opening a Gmail
> account, you also get access to Google Talk, Google's instant messaging
> service:
>
> http://www.google.com/talk/
>
> Google Talk offers:
> - Web-based chat that you can use anywhere, without a download
> - A contact list that's synchronized with your Gmail account
> - Free, high quality PC-to-PC voice calls when you download the Google Talk
>   client
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> We're working hard to add new features and make improvements, so we might
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 02:20:12 -0400
> From: Josh Gregory <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] our concerns
> To: [email protected], [email protected],
>       [email protected]
> Cc: Braille Note <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> ?Hello,
> My name is Joshua Gregory.  I use a BrailleNote Mpower with a 32-
> cell braille display running KeySoft 8, build 21.  I am writing
> this letter on behalf of myself as well as the BrailleNote list.
>   I, as well as the list, am concerned that if certain features
> are not introduced to KeySoft, such as better word support, or an
> SDK, that the BrailleNote will no longer be as competitive in the
> blindness PDA market as it is today in just a matter of a few
> years or so.  For instance, the Braille Sense products from HIMS
> now have an SDK available for programmers interested in writing
> programs for the Braille Sense, with the upcoming 6.0 firmware
> release from HIMS.  We, as BrailleNote users, do not yet have
> this available to us and we would like to see this implemented.
> With this, we could write games for the BN, such as uno, and also
> write programs that we could all benefit from.
>   We are also concerned with the absence to response from hw
> staff to questions posed on the list.  While many people on the
> list are able to answer most of the questions posed there, we as
> a collective group strongly feel that more communication would be
> valuable to feel a company presence on the list.
>   I strongly hope that this letter will be taken into
> consideration to both better the braillenote line of products and
> to make us bn users feel a presence from the company on very
> critical issues.
> Thank you.
> Sincerely,
> Joshua Gregory,
> Eleventh Grader at the Maryland School for the Blind
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:36:04 +0100
> From: Kieran L <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Daniel Gutz wants to chat
> To: braille note <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> 1. You cam#t even call with it.
> And 2. This is very annoying, and is filling my inbox with spam. Just sayin.
>
> Kieran Little.
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>
> On 03/04/2011 05:02, Daniel Gutz wrote:
>> I've been using Google Talk and thought you might like to try it out.
>> We can use it to call each other for free over the internet. Here's an
>> invitation to download Google Talk. Give it a try!
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Daniel Gutz wants to stay in better touch using some of Google's coolest
>> new
>> products.
>>
>> If you already have Gmail or Google Talk, visit:
>> http://mail.google.com/mail/b-d63c31ca8b-e4d12f6b4f-8jAB_5xQg6zMfKpux-DQRz2zDaY
>> You'll need to click this link to be able to chat with Daniel Gutz.
>>
>> To get Gmail - a free email account from Google with over 2,800 megabytes
>> of
>> storage - and chat with Daniel Gutz, visit:
>> http://mail.google.com/mail/a-d63c31ca8b-e4d12f6b4f-8jAB_5xQg6zMfKpux-DQRz2zDaY
>>
>> Gmail offers:
>> - Instant messaging right inside Gmail
>> - Powerful spam protection
>> - Built-in search for finding your messages and a helpful way of
>> organizing
>>    emails into "conversations"
>> - No pop-up ads or untargeted banners - just text ads and related
>> information
>>    that are relevant to the content of your messages
>>
>> All this, and its yours for free. But wait, there's more! By opening a
>> Gmail
>> account, you also get access to Google Talk, Google's instant messaging
>> service:
>>
>> http://www.google.com/talk/
>>
>> Google Talk offers:
>> - Web-based chat that you can use anywhere, without a download
>> - A contact list that's synchronized with your Gmail account
>> - Free, high quality PC-to-PC voice calls when you download the Google
>> Talk
>>    client
>>
>> We're working hard to add new features and make improvements, so we might
>> also
>> ask for your comments and suggestions periodically. We appreciate your
>> help in
>> making our products even better!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> The Google Team
>>
>> To learn more about Gmail and Google Talk, visit:
>> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/about.html
>> http://www.google.com/talk/about.html
>>
>> (If clicking the URLs in this message does not work, copy and paste them
>> into
>> the address bar of your browser).
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:32:22 +1030
> From: peter greco <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] Voice Sense thoughts expanded please Joseph
> To: Joseph Lee <[email protected]>,
>       [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Joseph
> I for one would like to hear your thoughts expanded here!
> the best time to make the correct decision is to see what HIMS
> does with version 6.0 firmware of theirs.  But at a personal
> level, I'm convinced that the underlying OS would give HIMS a
> headache later - unless if HIMS decides to upgrade later.  In
> order to spare misinformation, I'd rather not discuss my
> reasoning here - unless if and only if enough people demand it,
> but I'm sure you already know why.
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:04:25 -0400
> From: Vicky Collins <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] still can't download with the Sense
>       products/was    Few PBWorks announcements...
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> As expected, I was unable to download the eighth chat with my Sense
> products, but it downloaded just fine with the Apex.  Not that I know a
> thing about creating web sites; but, was just curious to know what the slash
> f part of the link indicates?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Lee <[email protected]>
> To: braille-note email list <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, Apr 2, 2011 17:38:40
> Subject: [Braillenote] Few PBWorks announcements...
>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks, but mostly at HW staff,
>>
>> Well, the long awaited recording of the eighth BrailleNote Chat is now
>> up on the site. Due to editing difficulty on my computer, I had to use
>> my backup machine for linking the files. As usual, the files are
>> located under Podcast Radio.
>>
>> In addition, I'm now accepting suggestions for a major version of
>> BrailleNote PBWorks, as well as a new user site that is scheduled to
>> be launched soon. The new user site will feature rewritten articles
>> from PBWorks, as well as user submitted documents, reorganized media
>> library and a repository of useful documents. For our friends, an
>> offline version of the site (at least the articles) will be availible
>> as well. The interface will resemble that of KeySoft with a main menu,
>> a shortcut list for major sections and others. So stay tuned for the
>> next few months as the site is being developed.
>>
>> The new PBWorks version: In the upcoming release of BrailleNote
>> PBWorks (codenamed "central"), I (the webmaster), with help from
>> users, plan to improve navigation experience, as well as to provide a
>> downloadable archive of PBWorks articles and incorporate your
>> feedback. Some of the planned highlights in the new version include
>> "navigation menu" where you can navigate to major sections of the site
>> from anywhere, a site listing all availible pages and a new page for
>> hosting useful documents such as user guides. Just like previous
>> incarnations of the site, I plan to incorporate your comments on the
>> new version and, if you have something to write about, a chance for
>> you to write an article or more so that the developers can post it on
>> the site for you (and we'll give you credit). We (I and other
>> developers) hope to launch this version some time in late summer to
>> get many feedback from you (especially from HW staff) on the site.
>> Thanks, and looking forward to hearing your comments.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Joseph S. Lee
>> University of California, Riverside
>> BrailleNote PBWorks admin
>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:14:47 -0700
> From: Joseph Lee <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] still can't download with the Sense
>       products/wasFew PBWorks announcements...
> To: Vicky Collins <[email protected]>,
>       [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi,
> That portion tells PBWorks server that it is a file link, not a
> website link (which has w prefix).
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vicky Collins <[email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date sent: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:04:25 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] still can't download with the Sense
> products/wasFew PBWorks announcements...
>
> As expected, I was unable to download the eighth chat with my
> Sense products, but it downloaded just fine with the Apex.  Not
> that I know a thing about creating web sites; but, was just
> curious to know what the slash f part of the link indicates?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Lee <[email protected]
> To: braille-note email list <[email protected]
> Date: Saturday, Apr 2, 2011 17:38:40
> Subject: [Braillenote] Few PBWorks announcements...
>
>
>
>  Hi folks, but mostly at HW staff,
>
>  Well, the long awaited recording of the eighth BrailleNote Chat
> is now
>  up on the site.  Due to editing difficulty on my computer, I had
> to use
>  my backup machine for linking the files.  As usual, the files
> are
>  located under Podcast Radio.
>
>  In addition, I'm now accepting suggestions for a major version
> of
>  BrailleNote PBWorks, as well as a new user site that is
> scheduled to
>  be launched soon.  The new user site will feature rewritten
> articles
>  from PBWorks, as well as user submitted documents, reorganized
> media
>  library and a repository of useful documents.  For our friends,
> an
>  offline version of the site (at least the articles) will be
> availible
>  as well.  The interface will resemble that of KeySoft with a
> main menu,
>  a shortcut list for major sections and others.  So stay tuned
> for the
>  next few months as the site is being developed.
>
>  The new PBWorks version: In the upcoming release of BrailleNote
>  PBWorks (codenamed "central"), I (the webmaster), with help from
>  users, plan to improve navigation experience, as well as to
> provide a
>  downloadable archive of PBWorks articles and incorporate your
>  feedback.  Some of the planned highlights in the new version
> include
>  "navigation menu" where you can navigate to major sections of
> the site
>  from anywhere, a site listing all availible pages and a new page
> for
>  hosting useful documents such as user guides.  Just like
> previous
>  incarnations of the site, I plan to incorporate your comments on
> the
>  new version and, if you have something to write about, a chance
> for
>  you to write an article or more so that the developers can post
> it on
>  the site for you (and we'll give you credit).  We (I and other
>  developers) hope to launch this version some time in late summer
> to
>  get many feedback from you (especially from HW staff) on the
> site.
>  Thanks, and looking forward to hearing your comments.
>
>  Sincerely,
>  Joseph S.  Lee
>  University of California, Riverside
>  BrailleNote PBWorks admin
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:01:35 -0500
> From: David Meador <[email protected]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] our concerns
> To: Josh Gregory <[email protected]>, [email protected],
>       [email protected], [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>       <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Dear Josh,
>
> You've written a respectful request.  For me, I'm wanting the
> Note-taker to grow up and become a PC, especially for browsing
> the internet.  Perhaps that's impossible with today's BrailleNote
> firmware software interfaces.  But at the very least, Humanware
> tech people owe us the courtesy of a periodic response to our
> discussion points and questions.
>
> David
>
>
>
> Beyond Vision
> Nashville, TN  615-385-0784
> www.davidmeador.com
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Josh Gregory <[email protected]
>>To: [email protected],
> [email protected],[email protected]
>>Date sent: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 02:20:12 -0400
>>Subject: [Braillenote] our concerns
>
>>?Hello,
>>My name is Joshua Gregory.  I use a BrailleNote Mpower with a 32-
>>cell braille display running KeySoft 8, build 21.  I am writing
>>this letter on behalf of myself as well as the BrailleNote list.
>>  I, as well as the list, am concerned that if certain features
>>are not introduced to KeySoft, such as better word support, or an
>>SDK, that the BrailleNote will no longer be as competitive in the
>>blindness PDA market as it is today in just a matter of a few
>>years or so.  For instance, the Braille Sense products from HIMS
>>now have an SDK available for programmers interested in writing
>>programs for the Braille Sense, with the upcoming 6.0 firmware
>>release from HIMS.  We, as BrailleNote users, do not yet have
>>this available to us and we would like to see this implemented.
>>With this, we could write games for the BN, such as uno, and also
>>write programs that we could all benefit from.
>>  We are also concerned with the absence to response from hw
>>staff to questions posed on the list.  While many people on the
>>list are able to answer most of the questions posed there, we as
>>a collective group strongly feel that more communication would be
>>valuable to feel a company presence on the list.
>>  I strongly hope that this letter will be taken into
>>consideration to both better the braillenote line of products and
>>to make us bn users feel a presence from the company on very
>>critical issues.
>>Thank you.
>>Sincerely,
>>Joshua Gregory,
>>Eleventh Grader at the Maryland School for the Blind
>
>>___
>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender.
>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a
>>copy to the list as well.
>
>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>[email protected]
>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:11:20 -0400
> From: Snow Bunny <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] BN manual for sale
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>       <20110403191120.14519.65718@domU-12-31-38-01-6A-28.compute-1.internal>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>
> Hi, I have now decided that the Apex is not what I need.  I had the
> Apex manual, version 9.0, transcribed into hard copy Braille some time
> ago, so I could study it, I do much better reading than listening when
> I want to really study something.  I paid $150 for the manual and I now
> want to sell it.  The price is negotiable but I would like to get near
> $150 for it.  Thanks for your consideration.  Beth
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:38:04 -0300
> From: Linda <[email protected]>
> Subject: re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>       attachments1 ,  cannot , see , formatting
> To: Charlie Smith <[email protected]>,
>       [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a question about receiveing attachments so that I can see
> the format correctly, as I am proofreading a document.  Can
> someone tell me exactly step by step how they should save the
> attachment? I have the mPower, build 31, Keysoft 7.5 I believe it
> is.  I have an 18 cell line.
>
> One strange thing that sometimes happens when I was trying to
> read the attachments that were sent to me incorrectly was that
> the word "to" would not be written right next to the word
> following it.  I'd take a word out and check again and sometimes
> that would rectify the situation, timetimes it wouldn't.  Also,
> it did not show two spaces after paragraphs.  Whenever I've
> downloaded a book from Bookshare things work just fine.  I can
> tell the two spaces after a paragraph.  So I'm hoping my Braille
> Note is not too old to receive and proofread attachments.  Just
> need to know how the sender should save them.  I did call
> Humanware and they said that there would be three choices, and
> not to add an extension onto the document before saving, that the
> extension would be added automatically.  And which of the three
> choices should be used? I wasn't told that.  I gave this
> information to the person trying to send the attachments but it
> didn't help.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.  Really hope someone will know the
> answer.  I know the Apex makes things much easier, but I don't
> have it and doubt if I could get it.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:40:50 -0400
> From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>       attachments1 ,  cannot , see , formatting
> To: Linda <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Try rtf (rich text format) or word 97-2003. Also, there should be no
> tables, images, or other formatting aside from basic paragraph, page,
> and line breaks. Bold, italic, and other fonts should work fine,
> though may not show in braille.
>
> On 4/3/11, Linda <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have a question about receiveing attachments so that I can see
>> the format correctly, as I am proofreading a document.  Can
>> someone tell me exactly step by step how they should save the
>> attachment? I have the mPower, build 31, Keysoft 7.5 I believe it
>> is.  I have an 18 cell line.
>>
>> One strange thing that sometimes happens when I was trying to
>> read the attachments that were sent to me incorrectly was that
>> the word "to" would not be written right next to the word
>> following it.  I'd take a word out and check again and sometimes
>> that would rectify the situation, timetimes it wouldn't.  Also,
>> it did not show two spaces after paragraphs.  Whenever I've
>> downloaded a book from Bookshare things work just fine.  I can
>> tell the two spaces after a paragraph.  So I'm hoping my Braille
>> Note is not too old to receive and proofread attachments.  Just
>> need to know how the sender should save them.  I did call
>> Humanware and they said that there would be three choices, and
>> not to add an extension onto the document before saving, that the
>> extension would be added automatically.  And which of the three
>> choices should be used? I wasn't told that.  I gave this
>> information to the person trying to send the attachments but it
>> didn't help.
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions.  Really hope someone will know the
>> answer.  I know the Apex makes things much easier, but I don't
>> have it and doubt if I could get it.
>>
>> Linda
>>
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>
>
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 08:10:58 +1200
> From: marisa sposaro <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>       attachments1 ,  cannot , see , formatting
> To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>       <20110403220340.WSKB6577.nschwotgx04p.mx.bigpond.com@BrailleNote>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Just another thing to add here.  Sometimes, rich text attachments
> sent through to the mpower do not work.  It's important that you
> tell the person sending the attachment to send in plain text.
> Marisa
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
>>To: Linda <[email protected]
>>Date sent: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:40:50 -0400
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
> attachments1 ,cannot , see , formatting
>
>>Try rtf (rich text format) or word 97-2003.  Also, there should
> be no
>>tables, images, or other formatting aside from basic paragraph,
> page,
>>and line breaks.  Bold, italic, and other fonts should work fine,
>>though may not show in braille.
>
>>On 4/3/11, Linda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>
>>> I have a question about receiveing attachments so that I can see
>>> the format correctly, as I am proofreading a document.  Can
>>> someone tell me exactly step by step how they should save the
>>> attachment? I have the mPower, build 31, Keysoft 7.5 I believe
> it
>>> is.  I have an 18 cell line.
>
>>> One strange thing that sometimes happens when I was trying to
>>> read the attachments that were sent to me incorrectly was that
>>> the word "to" would not be written right next to the word
>>> following it.  I'd take a word out and check again and sometimes
>>> that would rectify the situation, timetimes it wouldn't.  Also,
>>> it did not show two spaces after paragraphs.  Whenever I've
>>> downloaded a book from Bookshare things work just fine.  I can
>>> tell the two spaces after a paragraph.  So I'm hoping my Braille
>>> Note is not too old to receive and proofread attachments.  Just
>>> need to know how the sender should save them.  I did call
>>> Humanware and they said that there would be three choices, and
>>> not to add an extension onto the document before saving, that
> the
>>> extension would be added automatically.  And which of the three
>>> choices should be used? I wasn't told that.  I gave this
>>> information to the person trying to send the attachments but it
>>> didn't help.
>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions.  Really hope someone will know the
>>> answer.  I know the Apex makes things much easier, but I don't
>>> have it and doubt if I could get it.
>
>>> Linda
>
>>> ___
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>>> copy to the list as well.
>
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>
>
>
>
>>--
>>Have a great day,
>>Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>>[email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:07:17 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Kelby Carlson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>       attachments1 ,  cannot , see , formatting
> To: marisa sposaro <[email protected]>, [email protected],
>       [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Is the RTF problem fixed on the Apex?
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: marisa sposaro <[email protected]
>>To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>Date sent: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:04:41 -0500 (CDT)
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
> attachments1 ,cannot , see , formatting
>
>>Just another thing to add here.  Sometimes, rich text attachments
>>sent through to the mpower do not work.  It's important that you
>>tell the person sending the attachment to send in plain text.
>>Marisa
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
>>>To: Linda <[email protected]
>>>Date sent: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:40:50 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>>attachments1 ,cannot , see , formatting
>
>>>Try rtf (rich text format) or word 97-2003.  Also, there should
>>be no
>>>tables, images, or other formatting aside from basic paragraph,
>>page,
>>>and line breaks.  Bold, italic, and other fonts should work fine,
>>>though may not show in braille.
>
>>>On 4/3/11, Linda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>
>>>> I have a question about receiveing attachments so that I can see
>>>> the format correctly, as I am proofreading a document.  Can
>>>> someone tell me exactly step by step how they should save the
>>>> attachment? I have the mPower, build 31, Keysoft 7.5 I believe
>>it
>>>> is.  I have an 18 cell line.
>
>>>> One strange thing that sometimes happens when I was trying to
>>>> read the attachments that were sent to me incorrectly was that
>>>> the word "to" would not be written right next to the word
>>>> following it.  I'd take a word out and check again and sometimes
>>>> that would rectify the situation, timetimes it wouldn't.  Also,
>>>> it did not show two spaces after paragraphs.  Whenever I've
>>>> downloaded a book from Bookshare things work just fine.  I can
>>>> tell the two spaces after a paragraph.  So I'm hoping my Braille
>>>> Note is not too old to receive and proofread attachments.  Just
>>>> need to know how the sender should save them.  I did call
>>>> Humanware and they said that there would be three choices, and
>>>> not to add an extension onto the document before saving, that
>>the
>>>> extension would be added automatically.  And which of the three
>>>> choices should be used? I wasn't told that.  I gave this
>>>> information to the person trying to send the attachments but it
>>>> didn't help.
>
>>>> Thanks for any suggestions.  Really hope someone will know the
>>>> answer.  I know the Apex makes things much easier, but I don't
>>>> have it and doubt if I could get it.
>
>>>> Linda
>
>>>> ___
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>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a
>>>> copy to the list as well.
>
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>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
>
>
>
>
>>>--
>>>Have a great day,
>>>Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>>>[email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>
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>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:04:51 -0400
> From: Josh Gregory <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>       attachments1 ,  cannot , see , formatting
> To: marisa sposaro <[email protected]>, [email protected],
>       [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi,
> What about.doc format? I'm not sure, but when I get those sent to
> me they seem to work wel.
> Josh
>
> The Ever-Curious Master Yoda
> Email:[email protected]
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: marisa sposaro <[email protected]
>>To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>Date sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 08:10:58 +1200
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
> attachments1 ,cannot , see , formatting
>
>>Just another thing to add here.  Sometimes, rich text attachments
>>sent through to the mpower do not work.  It's important that you
>>tell the person sending the attachment to send in plain text.
>>Marisa
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
>>>To: Linda <[email protected]
>>>Date sent: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:40:50 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>>attachments1 ,cannot , see , formatting
>
>>>Try rtf (rich text format) or word 97-2003.  Also, there should
>>be no
>>>tables, images, or other formatting aside from basic paragraph,
>>page,
>>>and line breaks.  Bold, italic, and other fonts should work fine,
>>>though may not show in braille.
>
>>>On 4/3/11, Linda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>
>>>> I have a question about receiveing attachments so that I can see
>>>> the format correctly, as I am proofreading a document.  Can
>>>> someone tell me exactly step by step how they should save the
>>>> attachment? I have the mPower, build 31, Keysoft 7.5 I believe
>>it
>>>> is.  I have an 18 cell line.
>
>>>> One strange thing that sometimes happens when I was trying to
>>>> read the attachments that were sent to me incorrectly was that
>>>> the word "to" would not be written right next to the word
>>>> following it.  I'd take a word out and check again and sometimes
>>>> that would rectify the situation, timetimes it wouldn't.  Also,
>>>> it did not show two spaces after paragraphs.  Whenever I've
>>>> downloaded a book from Bookshare things work just fine.  I can
>>>> tell the two spaces after a paragraph.  So I'm hoping my Braille
>>>> Note is not too old to receive and proofread attachments.  Just
>>>> need to know how the sender should save them.  I did call
>>>> Humanware and they said that there would be three choices, and
>>>> not to add an extension onto the document before saving, that
>>the
>>>> extension would be added automatically.  And which of the three
>>>> choices should be used? I wasn't told that.  I gave this
>>>> information to the person trying to send the attachments but it
>>>> didn't help.
>
>>>> Thanks for any suggestions.  Really hope someone will know the
>>>> answer.  I know the Apex makes things much easier, but I don't
>>>> have it and doubt if I could get it.
>
>>>> Linda
>
>>>> ___
>>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender.
>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a
>>>> copy to the list as well.
>
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>>>> [email protected]
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>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
>
>
>
>
>>>--
>>>Have a great day,
>>>Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>>>[email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>
>>>___
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>>>copy to the list as well.
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>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:11:20 -0400
> From: Josh Gregory <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>       attachments1 ,  cannot , see , formatting
> To: marisa sposaro <[email protected]>, [email protected],
>       [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> OK, let me clarify that last one.  When I get .doc files sent to
> me that contain school work, they seem to work well.
> HTH,
> Josh
>
> The Ever-Curious Master Yoda
> Email: [email protected]?
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: marisa sposaro <[email protected]
>>To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>Date sent: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 08:10:58 +1200
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
> attachments1 ,cannot , see , formatting
>
>>Just another thing to add here.  Sometimes, rich text attachments
>>sent through to the mpower do not work.  It's important that you
>>tell the person sending the attachment to send in plain text.
>>Marisa
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
>>>To: Linda <[email protected]
>>>Date sent: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:40:50 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] , problem , receiving , correct ,
>>attachments1 ,cannot , see , formatting
>
>>>Try rtf (rich text format) or word 97-2003.  Also, there should
>>be no
>>>tables, images, or other formatting aside from basic paragraph,
>>page,
>>>and line breaks.  Bold, italic, and other fonts should work fine,
>>>though may not show in braille.
>
>>>On 4/3/11, Linda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>
>>>> I have a question about receiveing attachments so that I can see
>>>> the format correctly, as I am proofreading a document.  Can
>>>> someone tell me exactly step by step how they should save the
>>>> attachment? I have the mPower, build 31, Keysoft 7.5 I believe
>>it
>>>> is.  I have an 18 cell line.
>
>>>> One strange thing that sometimes happens when I was trying to
>>>> read the attachments that were sent to me incorrectly was that
>>>> the word "to" would not be written right next to the word
>>>> following it.  I'd take a word out and check again and sometimes
>>>> that would rectify the situation, timetimes it wouldn't.  Also,
>>>> it did not show two spaces after paragraphs.  Whenever I've
>>>> downloaded a book from Bookshare things work just fine.  I can
>>>> tell the two spaces after a paragraph.  So I'm hoping my Braille
>>>> Note is not too old to receive and proofread attachments.  Just
>>>> need to know how the sender should save them.  I did call
>>>> Humanware and they said that there would be three choices, and
>>>> not to add an extension onto the document before saving, that
>>the
>>>> extension would be added automatically.  And which of the three
>>>> choices should be used? I wasn't told that.  I gave this
>>>> information to the person trying to send the attachments but it
>>>> didn't help.
>
>>>> Thanks for any suggestions.  Really hope someone will know the
>>>> answer.  I know the Apex makes things much easier, but I don't
>>>> have it and doubt if I could get it.
>
>>>> Linda
>
>>>> ___
>>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender.
>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a
>>>> copy to the list as well.
>
>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
>
>
>
>
>>>--
>>>Have a great day,
>>>Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>>>[email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>
>>>___
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>>>copy to the list as well.
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>
>
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>>copy to the list as well.
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:16:24 -0400
> From: Chandra Hottinger <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] erasing a folder
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi. I am having trouble erasing this folder. I have tried going to the
> folder manager menu and going to the name and pressing backspace and
> the letter c. then it gives this exception command error with the
> number 58. i have tried deleting the folders within the folder. if you
> could help i would appreciate it. thanks. Chandra ,ps. I have a Bt 18
> apex
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:59:41 -0400
> From: Lori Scharff <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Braillenote] question on connecting Apex with with Index
>       embosser
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <E712823BCCC04B89B7512A8E1609004C@2010COMPUTER>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi all, I can't figure out if this is an Apex issue or an Index issue. When
> I connect the Apex to my Index using a USB to paralell cable I press w for
> word and then e for emboss. I think (it appears if the USB is turned on on
> the brailleNote. I receive an error message which says network or resource
> denied. Any thoughts?
> Lori
>
>
>
>
>
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> End of Braillenote Digest, Vol 2645, Issue 1
> ********************************************
>
Hi all,

I have an Apex which has a lot of quirks in my opinon.
Anyway, I transferred a lot of files to it via flash drive. I haven't
been able to get it to come back on despite trying to reset it and
putting it on the charger. I thought it might have died at firs,t as
it does not have a great battery life.
I would like to get it back up and running without sending it off to
HW. I was able to get my Mpower to come back on, but I can't remember
exactly what I did.
Any suggestions would be great as I need the note taker with the
braille display.

Thanks a million,
Liz

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