Hello Matthew I too have been having syncing issues with my apex. I have tried working with tech. support and have not been able to get this fixed. My problem is that my employer purchased the apex for me and getting rid of it for something else would require me to go through a lot of red tape. Prior to getting this I had a pacmate and was able to sync contacts and calendar just fine. Humanware is saying that my issue is that my contacts are on a server but I have a colleague in my same office with an apex who is able to sync so my problem with what humanware is saying is that if she is able to do it and we are using the exact same computer, server, and same note taker then why can't I. This too was a deal breaker for me but I have missed the return time for getting the money back. I wish I had known this sooner. If you figure out a way to get it to work please let me know what you did. I thought about trying the serial to USB cord to see if that would work.
Shawnese Laury-Johnson, MA, CRC, LLPC Assistant East Region Manager Michigan Commission for the Blind 3038 W. Grand Blvd. ste. 4-450 Det., Mi 48202 313.456.1957 FAX: 313.456.1645 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Braillenote Digest, Vol 2989, Issue 1 Send Braillenote mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Braillenote digest..." Today's Topics: 1. BrailleNote mPower up for grabs - $900 (Grant Hardy) 2. wireless-N card? (jessica) 3. Re: External hard drive. (jessica) 4. Re: External hard drive. (jessica) 5. re: wireless-N card? (Grant Hardy) 6. re: re: wireless-N card? (Joseph Lee) 7. re: wireless-N card? (jessica) 8. RE: still having syncing issues (Matthew J) 9. Re: still having syncing issues (Grant Hardy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:27:56 -0700 From: Grant Hardy <[email protected]> Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower up for grabs - $900 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Hello all, I am putting my BrailleNote mPower BT 32 up for sale. It runs the latest version of KeySoft for the mPower, 8.2, with PDF conversion capabilities. I'm asking $950 USD or best offer. Serious inquiries only please. Unit is being sold as is, but is in good working condition and all Braille cells appear to work well. Unit will ship with carrying case, serial adapter, USB to serial cable, AC adapter, Braille quick reference guide, and wireless-N card. You can send me a private Email if interested. Many thanks, Grant ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:09:27 -0700 From: jessica <[email protected]> Subject: [Braillenote] wireless-N card? To: Grant Hardy <[email protected]>, [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Really? You are selling an mPower with a wireless-N card? I was told that the mPower can't connect to N networks. Please correct me if I am wrong. sent from my BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Hardy <[email protected] To: [email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:27:56 -0700 Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower up for grabs - $900 Hello all, I am putting my BrailleNote mPower BT 32 up for sale. It runs the latest version of KeySoft for the mPower, 8.2, with PDF conversion capabilities. I'm asking $950 USD or best offer. Serious inquiries only please. Unit is being sold as is, but is in good working condition and all Braille cells appear to work well. Unit will ship with carrying case, serial adapter, USB to serial cable, AC adapter, Braille quick reference guide, and wireless-N card. You can send me a private Email if interested. Many thanks, Grant ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:19:47 -0700 From: jessica <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] External hard drive. To: bigd <[email protected]>, bn <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Usually if I reset the BrailleNote with the hard drive plugged in it is because the BrailleNote froze during reading or writing to the hard drive. What I mean is that sometimes the unit is in the middle of a reading or writing session and it just locks up and does nothing. I know it has stopped working because the progress beeps stop and pressing space with h does nothing and pressing space with e also does nothing. But even when the BrailleNote locks up, I can still hear the hard drive spinning. I never do a reset with the hard drive plugged in unless I have to. If it ever happens that my filesystem gets corrupted then what fancy tools were you talking about? Just in case. I have a lot of files and I am not interested in losing them. sent from my BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: bigd <[email protected] To: jessica <[email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:03:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Braillenote] External hard drive. Hi, If you have to, I'd recommend waiting until it stops writing to, or reading from the disks. If the drive actually spins down, that's a plus. You shouldn't lose any data then, but if you reset it or unplug while the drive is actually writing... One small mistake can corrupt a whole filesystem such that you need fancy tools to either get your files back or fix it. Thanks and HTH, KJ4UFX {.i doi .tcikoritys. mi cuxna ba'e do} On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 03:58:53PM -0800, jessica wrote: Hi. I have an external usb hard drive for my bn. It does have moving parts. It gets it's power from the bn's usb ports. It takes 2 ports. I am wondering. If I press reset while the hard drive is plugged in to the bn, Will I lose any data from the hard drive and if I will then how much will be lost? Also will it be a whole folder lost or just a file or 2 from out of a folder? I try not to hit reset with my hard drive plugged in to my bn but sometimes my bn locks up while copying files and I have to reset it. And can pressing reset while the hard drive is plugged in make my files get corrupted? Would it be better to unplug the hard drive before resetting even if a file copy process is in progress instead of resetting with it plugged in? How would leaving it plugged in during the reset vs unplugging it before the reset effect my data? Thanks. sent from my BrailleNote ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:51:47 -0700 From: jessica <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] External hard drive. To: bigd <[email protected]>, bn <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Ok. When you said writing I thought you meant if files were being transferred to the hard drive. sent from my BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: bigd <[email protected] To: jessica <[email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:40:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Braillenote] External hard drive. Hi, By writing I mean if the actual drive is messing with the disks (if it's clicking). It would depend on the kind of damage. Anything from a simple scandisk to full-blown and equally full-priced recovery solutions like SpinRite. It generally shouldn't be that bad, though. BTW, maybe it's just me, but I learned not to trust the manuals on defragmenting. They say you can just cancel a disk defrag anytime with no damage. A scandisk wouldn't fix that one. Nothing would recognize it, or could mount it. A free tool based on reverse-engineering the filesystem was able to find and fix the problem within about 2 seconds, with no data loss. A free, open source tool, not one of the official Microsoft ones! Tee hee. Thanks, KJ4UFX {.i doi .tcikoritys. mi cuxna ba'e do} On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 08:19:47PM -0700, jessica wrote: Usually if I reset the BrailleNote with the hard drive plugged in it is because the BrailleNote froze during reading or writing to the hard drive. What I mean is that sometimes the unit is in the middle of a reading or writing session and it just locks up and does nothing. I know it has stopped working because the progress beeps stop and pressing space with h does nothing and pressing space with e also does nothing. But even when the BrailleNote locks up, I can still hear the hard drive spinning. I never do a reset with the hard drive plugged in unless I have to. If it ever happens that my filesystem gets corrupted then what fancy tools were you talking about? Just in case. I have a lot of files and I am not interested in losing them. sent from my BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: bigd <[email protected] To: jessica <[email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:03:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Braillenote] External hard drive. Hi, If you have to, I'd recommend waiting until it stops writing to, or reading from the disks. If the drive actually spins down, that's a plus. You shouldn't lose any data then, but if you reset it or unplug while the drive is actually writing... One small mistake can corrupt a whole filesystem such that you need fancy tools to either get your files back or fix it. Thanks and HTH, KJ4UFX {.i doi .tcikoritys. mi cuxna ba'e do} On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 03:58:53PM -0800, jessica wrote: Hi. I have an external usb hard drive for my bn. It does have moving parts. It gets it's power from the bn's usb ports. It takes 2 ports. I am wondering. If I press reset while the hard drive is plugged in to the bn, Will I lose any data from the hard drive and if I will then how much will be lost? Also will it be a whole folder lost or just a file or 2 from out of a folder? I try not to hit reset with my hard drive plugged in to my bn but sometimes my bn locks up while copying files and I have to reset it. And can pressing reset while the hard drive is plugged in make my files get corrupted? Would it be better to unplug the hard drive before resetting even if a file copy process is in progress instead of resetting with it plugged in? How would leaving it plugged in during the reset vs unplugging it before the reset effect my data? Thanks. sent from my BrailleNote ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:36:19 -0700 From: Grant Hardy <[email protected]> Subject: [Braillenote] re: wireless-N card? To: jessica <[email protected]>, [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Jessica, yes seems to work just fine at this end. I'll do some testing tomorrow by setting my wireless base station to N-only mode and trying to connect the mPower to the network. I suppose it could be that I have simply been using the card in G-only mode all this time-though I purchased the card with advice from Humanware technical support, and never thought to look into it further. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: jessica <[email protected] To: Grant Hardy <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:09:27 -0700 Subject: wireless-N card? Really? You are selling an mPower with a wireless-N card? I was told that the mPower can't connect to N networks. Please correct me if I am wrong. sent from my BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Hardy <[email protected] To: [email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:27:56 -0700 Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower up for grabs - $900 Hello all, I am putting my BrailleNote mPower BT 32 up for sale. It runs the latest version of KeySoft for the mPower, 8.2, with PDF conversion capabilities. I'm asking $950 USD or best offer. Serious inquiries only please. Unit is being sold as is, but is in good working condition and all Braille cells appear to work well. Unit will ship with carrying case, serial adapter, USB to serial cable, AC adapter, Braille quick reference guide, and wireless-N card. You can send me a private Email if interested. Many thanks, Grant ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:00:06 -0700 From: Joseph Lee <[email protected]> Subject: re: [Braillenote] re: wireless-N card? To: Grant Hardy <[email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, Er, what's the manufacturer and model of that card? Is it Ambicom G card? If not, what's the model so others can investigate it? Cheers, Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Hardy <[email protected] To: jessica <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:36:19 -0700 Subject: [Braillenote] re: wireless-N card? Hi Jessica, yes seems to work just fine at this end. I'll do some testing tomorrow by setting my wireless base station to N-only mode and trying to connect the mPower to the network. I suppose it could be that I have simply been using the card in G-only mode all this time-though I purchased the card with advice from Humanware technical support, and never thought to look into it further. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: jessica <[email protected] To: Grant Hardy <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:09:27 -0700 Subject: wireless-N card? Really? You are selling an mPower with a wireless-N card? I was told that the mPower can't connect to N networks. Please correct me if I am wrong. sent from my BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Hardy <[email protected] To: [email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:27:56 -0700 Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower up for grabs - $900 Hello all, I am putting my BrailleNote mPower BT 32 up for sale. It runs the latest version of KeySoft for the mPower, 8.2, with PDF conversion capabilities. I'm asking $950 USD or best offer. Serious inquiries only please. Unit is being sold as is, but is in good working condition and all Braille cells appear to work well. Unit will ship with carrying case, serial adapter, USB to serial cable, AC adapter, Braille quick reference guide, and wireless-N card. You can send me a private Email if interested. Many thanks, Grant ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:56:04 -0700 From: jessica <[email protected]> Subject: [Braillenote] re: wireless-N card? To: Grant Hardy <[email protected]>, [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Ok. let me know how it goes. sent from my BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Hardy <[email protected] To: jessica <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:36:19 -0700 Subject: re: wireless-N card? Hi Jessica, yes seems to work just fine at this end. I'll do some testing tomorrow by setting my wireless base station to N-only mode and trying to connect the mPower to the network. I suppose it could be that I have simply been using the card in G-only mode all this time-though I purchased the card with advice from Humanware technical support, and never thought to look into it further. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: jessica <[email protected] To: Grant Hardy <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:09:27 -0700 Subject: wireless-N card? Really? You are selling an mPower with a wireless-N card? I was told that the mPower can't connect to N networks. Please correct me if I am wrong. sent from my BrailleNote ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Hardy <[email protected] To: [email protected] Date sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:27:56 -0700 Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote mPower up for grabs - $900 Hello all, I am putting my BrailleNote mPower BT 32 up for sale. It runs the latest version of KeySoft for the mPower, 8.2, with PDF conversion capabilities. I'm asking $950 USD or best offer. Serious inquiries only please. Unit is being sold as is, but is in good working condition and all Braille cells appear to work well. Unit will ship with carrying case, serial adapter, USB to serial cable, AC adapter, Braille quick reference guide, and wireless-N card. You can send me a private Email if interested. Many thanks, Grant ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:32:57 -0000 From: "Matthew J" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] still having syncing issues To: "'Grant Hardy'" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Thank you for this, as it is the first real new lead that I've received in some time. Anyway, I've emailed Kurzweil tech support and this is their response. Hi. I'm not sure of this. One would think that humanware technical support should be familiar with this. I had two raille notes in my past and never had a problem syncing. I do remember that whenever I connected my braille note, I would hear that message, but I used to sync my mPower all the time. There might be a setting in the sync menu, but it has been a couple of years and I don't remember<grin>. Unfortunately, I sold my mPower; so don't even have one to test with. See if any of the humanware tech support guys are k1000 users. I would suspect that there should be at least one. I hope you can get this resolved. I wouldn't think the mPower is any different than the apex with regard to syncing. ...ok? pass the buck again, lol, Mj -----Original Message----- From: Grant Hardy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 8:48 PM To: Matthew J Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Braillenote] still having syncing issues Hi Matthew, A couple things to check. Can you try deleting the KeySync folder and let KeySync rebuild your synchronization database? KeySync stores the synchronization data in a folder which, on your system, will probably be in c:\users\username\AppData\Roaming\Humanware. Simply find the folder named KeySync and delete it. When you next sync (assuming it works) the records will be merged between Outlook 2010 and KeySoft, and some previously deleted items may reappear. Make sure you are not currently using your Apex as a Braille display. Just to make 100% certain of this, reboot your computer without having the Apex connected, and wait for your screen reader to start. Then reset the Apex, connect it to the computer, wait until the connection is established (both the computer and the Apex should make sounds) then enter Utilities, Synchronization and choose Synchronize now. Look for a prompt from KeySync asking whether it is okay to sync with this device, and accept it. See if that works. If it doesn't, know that you are most likely using the Kurzweil Windows Mobile Device Center interface, which is used to transfer between Kurzweil and other devices. I know this because of the "mobile device connected" message that you are receiving - that's produced by the Kurzweil engine. That thing causes a whole host of issues, so you might want to talk to Kurzweil technical support to ask how you might best uninstall it. I know at least a couple of people who had to do this. Good luck and keep us posted, Grant On 03/11/2012, Matthew J <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Several months ago I wrote to the list and spoke to humanware tech > support in two countries regarding my problem. I own an apex qt32 and > am trying to sync contacts and files under windows 7 64 bit. This is a > deal breaker for me and failure to have this functionality is strongly > influencing me towards the sale of this unit. > > Despite truly amazing customer service from humanware UK, which even > included remoting into my PC for two hours, I had them stumped. US > were no better. I have tried again tonight on two different machines > with the same result, both running win 7 64 bit and Outlook 2010. The > Bn reports that it cannot connect to active sync and the PC just sits > there and says mobile device connected. > > > > In conclusion, either someone solve my little problem or trade me for > a braille sense plus? Lol I'm done with this thing. > > Me > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the > list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:15:25 -0700 From: Grant Hardy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] still having syncing issues To: Matthew J <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <caahk5q-vvyz6p93hk1_gc1c9uxzrjn23kvzl3x0ygtqbtji...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Matthew, Firstly, did you try all the other suggestions I gave you (i.e. deleting the KeySync folder, and ensuring that Braille display activity isn't trying to happen)? Secondly, why don't you just try temporarily uninstalling Kurzweil 1000? It won't effect your documents, and you'll be putting it back very soon. We just want to find out whether indeed this is the problem before investigating it further. Cheers, Grant On 03/13/2012, Matthew J <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for this, as it is the first real new lead that I've received in > some time. Anyway, I've emailed Kurzweil tech support and this is their > response. > Hi. I'm not sure of this. One would think that humanware technical > support should be familiar with this. I had two raille notes in my past and > never had a problem syncing. > I do remember that whenever I connected my braille note, I would hear that > message, but I used to sync my mPower all the time. > There might be a setting in the sync menu, but it has been a couple of years > and I don't remember<grin>. > Unfortunately, I sold my mPower; so don't even have one to test with. > See if any of the humanware tech support guys are k1000 users. I would > suspect that there should be at least one. > I hope you can get this resolved. > I wouldn't think the mPower is any different than the apex with regard to > syncing. > > ...ok? pass the buck again, lol, > Mj > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant Hardy [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 8:48 PM > To: Matthew J > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] still having syncing issues > > Hi Matthew, > > A couple things to check. Can you try deleting the KeySync folder and let > KeySync rebuild your synchronization database? KeySync stores the > synchronization data in a folder which, on your system, will probably be in > c:\users\username\AppData\Roaming\Humanware. Simply find the folder named > KeySync and delete it. When you next sync (assuming it > works) the records will be merged between Outlook 2010 and KeySoft, and some > previously deleted items may reappear. > > Make sure you are not currently using your Apex as a Braille display. > Just to make 100% certain of this, reboot your computer without having the > Apex connected, and wait for your screen reader to start. Then reset the > Apex, connect it to the computer, wait until the connection is established > (both the computer and the Apex should make sounds) then enter Utilities, > Synchronization and choose Synchronize now. Look for a prompt from KeySync > asking whether it is okay to sync with this device, and accept it. See if > that works. > > If it doesn't, know that you are most likely using the Kurzweil Windows > Mobile Device Center interface, which is used to transfer between Kurzweil > and other devices. I know this because of the "mobile device connected" > message that you are receiving - that's produced by the Kurzweil engine. > That thing causes a whole host of issues, so you might want to talk to > Kurzweil technical support to ask how you might best uninstall it. I know at > least a couple of people who had to do this. > > Good luck and keep us posted, > > Grant > > On 03/11/2012, Matthew J <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Several months ago I wrote to the list and spoke to humanware tech >> support in two countries regarding my problem. I own an apex qt32 and >> am trying to sync contacts and files under windows 7 64 bit. This is a >> deal breaker for me and failure to have this functionality is strongly >> influencing me towards the sale of this unit. >> >> Despite truly amazing customer service from humanware UK, which even >> included remoting into my PC for two hours, I had them stumped. US >> were no better. I have tried again tonight on two different machines >> with the same result, both running win 7 64 bit and Outlook 2010. The >> Bn reports that it cannot connect to active sync and the PC just sits >> there and says mobile device connected. >> >> >> >> In conclusion, either someone solve my little problem or trade me for >> a braille sense plus? Lol I'm done with this thing. >> >> Me >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the >> list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> > > ------------------------------ ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote End of Braillenote Digest, Vol 2989, Issue 1 ******************************************** ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. 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