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1. RE: Quick update from a relative newby (Chris Nusbaum)
2. FW: [nabs-l] Someone looking for blind people to take part in
a fun little study (Chris Nusbaum)
3. Re: Quick update from a relative newby (Beth)
4. Re: Quick update from a relative newby (Tom Behler)
5. A batter Question (Allison Fallin)
6. Re: A batter Question (Alex Hall)
7. Re: more braillenote feedback suggestions (Sharon S)
8. Re: Quick update from a relative newby (Sharon S)
9. Re: Quick update from a relative newby (Terri Pannett)
10. wireless on the apex. (Shane Davidson)
11. Re: wireless on the apex. (Alex Hall)
12. Apex and BookSense (Jessica Brown)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:17:34 -0400
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
To: "'Tom Behler'" <[email protected]>, "'Braille Note e-mail list'"
<[email protected]>
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Hi Tom,
I personally like my Braille keyboard and BT model, probably because I did
everything on a Perkins Brailler before I got my BrailleNote and was just
used to that keyboard. I would definitely recommend checking out the
BrailleNote Users Web site, as we have a lot of people who contribute to
our
site who have QT models, and they can provide a lot of information which I
can't personally provide. I know absolutely nothing about the QT commands,
as I have always worked with a BT keyboard, first on an mPower and now on
an
Apex. I would especially suggest checking the command summary section of
our
site for QT command lists; I believe it was finished and posted this week.
Good luck in the switch to the new keyboard!
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 7:32 PM
To: Braille Note e-mail list
Subject: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
Hello, everyone.
Many people on this list have been extremely patient in answering the
various questions I have posed over the past few weeks, as I have tried to
learn the ins and outs of the Braille Note Apex BT32. As a result, I
think
it is only fair that I let you know of a decision I made today.
Basically, I have decided to make the switch from the BT32 Braille Note
Apex, to the QT32 Apex with the qwerty keyboard. I am still well within
the
30-day free exchange period, so I thought that I'd better make the switch
soon if I'm going to do it.
It's hard for me to explain why I have decided to make the switch, but
I'll
just say it this way. For whatever reason, even though I'm a very
proficient Braille user, the Braille-style keyboard was just too hard for
me
to get used to, and to feel comfortable with. I tried a qwerty keyboard
BN
Apex today, and the keyboard simply felt much more comfortable to me.
It probably will be a few weeks until Humanware processes the change, and
I
get my new qwerty model. So, in the meantime, I'm going to read up on the
documentation I have that will be helpful with the qwerty functions.
If anyone has any helpful hints, command lists, or "how to" guides for the
qwerty Braille Note Apex, please send them my way. I will also check out
the braillenote users web site to see what I can find there.
I am sure at least some folks here will disagree with what I have done,
but
it really does seem like a matter of personal preference to me, more than
anything else.
Thanks for listening, and again, for putting up with all of my questions
of
late.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:24:45 -0400
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] FW: [nabs-l] Someone looking for blind people
to take part in a fun little study
To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Some of you may be interested in taking part in this study. If you are
interested, please contact the study conductor directly.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 4:52 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Someone looking for blind people to take part in a fun
little study
Hello,
This is sort of off topic, but there is someone doing research for how
blind people navigate Virtual worlds. He wants people that havenâ?Tt had
much experience playing IF or Muds. His message is below:
Begin quote:
Hello!
I'm doing research on text based online roleplaying games. It is
specifically about parameters of immersion for blind and sighted players.
If you are interested in participating in a small study about this, I
would be happy, if you could aid me. It would be good, if you wouldn't
have too much experience in playing Interactive Fiction or
Multi-User-Dungeons, though.
The tests will be conducted throughout June and can be done at home,
though with a skype or phone connection to me. The whole test shouldn't
take longer than one and a half hour.
If you are interested in participating, please drop me an email:
[email protected] and then we can sort out the specifics.
Thanks in advance.
katta
End quote.
To move it more on topic though, I think playing IF and Muds as well as
other audio games are the best way for one to learn the computer. Iâ?Tve
often wondered why VI instructors try teaching Jaws doing these deathly
boring exercises when all they need to do is set up VIP Mud and let the
person go... In the process one learns how to use alt commands, moving
using tab, moving through pages using the arrow keys, reading with both
the page up and down, home and end keys and in order to get Jaws to sound
like they want, it requires they explore the Jaws dictionary. Also when
playing Muds itâ?Ts a given that players will develop the ability to type
extremely fast and their knowledge of the keyboard will become so second
nature they will be able to hit any key without thinking about it.
Playing Muds in particular also leads one to become more familiar with
scripting for software which often leads to an interest in programming.
Because the STEM fields are feared by many blind individuals, being able
to have a first hand experience on how not scary software engineering is a
fantastic way to guide blind students to garner a passion for computers.
Thank you,
Brandon Keith Biggs
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 20:49:15 -0400
From: Beth <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: [email protected]
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Yes, it is personal preference and everyone is entitled to his or her
own choice and I'm so glad we have choices! Good luck with the QWERTY
model! Beth
Original message:
Hello, everyone.
Many people on this list have been extremely patient in answering the
various questions I have posed over the past few weeks, as I have tried
to
learn the ins and outs of the Braille Note Apex BT32. As a result, I
think
it is only fair that I let you know of a decision I made today.
Basically, I have decided to make the switch from the BT32 Braille Note
Apex, to the QT32 Apex with the qwerty keyboard. I am still well within
the
30-day free exchange period, so I thought that I'd better make the switch
soon if I'm going to do it.
It's hard for me to explain why I have decided to make the switch, but
I'll
just say it this way. For whatever reason, even though I'm a very
proficient Braille user, the Braille-style keyboard was just too hard for
me
to get used to, and to feel comfortable with. I tried a qwerty keyboard
BN
Apex today, and the keyboard simply felt much more comfortable to me.
It probably will be a few weeks until Humanware processes the change, and
I
get my new qwerty model. So, in the meantime, I'm going to read up on
the
documentation I have that will be helpful with the qwerty functions.
If anyone has any helpful hints, command lists, or "how to" guides for
the
qwerty Braille Note Apex, please send them my way. I will also check out
the braillenote users web site to see what I can find there.
I am sure at least some folks here will disagree with what I have done,
but
it really does seem like a matter of personal preference to me, more than
anything else.
Thanks for listening, and again, for putting up with all of my questions
of
late.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 21:26:36 -0400
From: "Tom Behler" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
To: "Braille Note e-mail list" <[email protected]>
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Hi, all.
I usually don't reply to messages via the entire list, but Marvin's very
kind and thoughtful e-mail has prompted me to just say a very sincere
thanks
for the support and encouragement.
Using a device like the Braille Note Apex is totally new to me; and, as
we
all know, this stuff can get quite daunting at times. Plus, it's always
so
hard to know whether you are making wise decisions when purchasing.
It's good to know that you guys are out there, and please know that any
question I ask to the list results either from my not being able to find
something relatively quickly in the documentation, or from my just plain
professorial curiosity sometimes. (grin)
Sincerely,
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin - a fellow Lister" <[email protected]>
To: "Tom Behler" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 8:16 PM
Subject: re: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
Hi, Tom. Congratulations on your decision to switch keyboards. I
myself
prefer typing in braille, thus I have a braille keyboard on my bn mPower,
but I can fully appreciate someone preferring the querty style. I'm just
glad they have a time within which you can change your mind. I never
knew
they did that.
Whether or not anyone else on here would disagree with your choice is
irrelevant. Everyone is entitled to their own free will. Also, in
regards to people answering your questions and being patient with you,
it's another function of free choice. Those of us on this list of many
members who feel they can best answer your question, or are willing to
try
to do so are the most likely ones to reply, and those who don't reply
either know that they aren't cut out for it, or are simply counting on
the
near certainty that someone else will help where they can't. Sometimes
creative thinking succeeds where documentation, no matter how
well-written, fails. As individuals, we can only do our best to
understand and to teach others, whereas a large group is proportionally
more likely to come up with something original and out of the ordinary
the
bigger such a group is.
The bn users site is just an attempt by some of us to supplement the
information in the manual, or to explain stuff not clearly understood
from
reading said user guide. And sometimes people discover things totally
hidden from us by omission of information. The "playtime" game is a
perfect example of this. Until someone else on this list discovered it a
few years ago, none of us had any idea there was any other game on our
machines other than what text adventures came on our bn memory. Thanks
to
that discovery, which was shared with the rest of us via a post, we all
know now. Our species cooperates when faced with a problem or situation
beyond any single person, which is one of our greatest strengths. Don't
hesitate to use that to your advantage. When you need help,
clarification, understanding, commiseration, etc, go right ahead and try
to find what you're looking for. There's lots of us bn users out there,
so odds are you're likely to get a response to your liking. Sometimes
you
won't, but that's just a function of individuals' personality, level of
knowledge, and/or experience.
Sorry for what must seem to be an email comprised of a philosophical
essay. Lol! I'm usually not so verbose, but I want to encourage you to
seek assistance when needed, and to explore when you feel confident of
finding an answer for yourself. Making friends helps, and among us you
might find quite a few. Email is a wonderful way to communicate, but
there's another method which the bn allows you to use as well. If you
haven't already done so, try using keychat to contact people. I think
it's mostly for gmail users, but a few other email carriers might be
possible as well.
I'm not sure how tech-savvy you are, so I'll just say that gmail
provides
instant messaging capability a certain way that other instant messaging
clients can't access yet. I think Facebook users can access keychat, but
if I remember rightly, there is some tricky work to be done first. You
would be ok though since you've got a gmail address. Setting up keychat
is easy.
If you'd like to try using it but don't know how, contact me or the List
and we'll help you get started. You don't have to by any means, but it's
available should you wish to use it. Anything new is potentially scary,
but also exciting.
May the Force be with you.
----------------
Marvin
----------------
Email sent from my BrailleNote mPower BT running Keysoft version 8
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 07:41:09 -0500
From: Allison Fallin <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] A batter Question
To: Braillenote <[email protected]>
Message-ID:
<20120602124146.lxrz1165.eastrmfepo202.cox....@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello,
I have an Apex, bt32, the latest version.
When I turned my unit off last night at about 10:30, my battery
percentage was at 100%.
The wireless connection was turned off.
I just pulled down my 7 e-mails and the percentage had dropped by
4%. I've had my unit for about 2 thears, and haven't checked the
percentage in this way before.
This seems like a fair amount of reduction to me. Your thoughts?
Allison Fallin
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:59:26 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] A batter Question
To: Allison Fallin <[email protected]>
Cc: Braillenote <[email protected]>
Message-ID:
<CAF=P20U-vZh6RKBN2Dm=LBws5kLvqs139+YxqsoTL-=wnfc...@mail.gmail.com>
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I don't even bother with the battery percentage anymore until it gets
way down. As many others have found, the gauge can be inaccurate,
especially nearing 100%. Besides, I thought I heard somewhere that
these batteries are past their optimal life at 18 months, so your two
years may mean your battery could due with replacement. Of course, if
it lasts, don't bother, but I wouldn't be surprised if you started
seeing shortened battery life in the months ahead.
On 6/2/12, Allison Fallin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
I have an Apex, bt32, the latest version.
When I turned my unit off last night at about 10:30, my battery
percentage was at 100%.
The wireless connection was turned off.
I just pulled down my 7 e-mails and the percentage had dropped by
4%. I've had my unit for about 2 thears, and haven't checked the
percentage in this way before.
This seems like a fair amount of reduction to me. Your thoughts?
Allison Fallin
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:12:30 +1000
From: "Sharon S" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] more braillenote feedback suggestions
To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>, "Aleeha Dudley"
<[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <C90C619F92E140CB9BDCF6640C495F75@SharonLaptop>
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Hi all, I would agree with the statement of making the BN's more stabil. I
am very happy wwith my Apex and PK it is only the crashes that get in the
way of my enjoyment. I haven't had as much problems as others on the list,
I
use the email program and have never had it totally go on me. I have had a
couple of times where I couldn't move or delete emails but this was just a
matter of making more room on the flash drive and then I could move or
delete messages again. The only thing I really would like to see in a
upgrade very soon is the docx support. I use microsoft 2007 on my
computers
so some of the documents I creat aren't accessable on my BN's. However I
can
set word to automatically save them as a earlier version which I currently
do because a number of people I deal with don't have the latest versions
of
word. However as more and more people start to move over to the newest
word
program it would be nice if I didn't have to send the document to my
computer to translate before opening it on my Apex.
Well that's my main issue for now.
From Shaz.
BN QT Apex and PK user.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
To: "Aleeha Dudley" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] more braillenote feedback suggestions
| Hi,
| I think, for sake of time and space, I'd like to offer jwo
| questions that convention attendees should ask HW (in my opinion)
| and for us to ponder for a while:
| * What is better - stability in long term or useful features in
| short term? Although useful features would make Apex an
| attractive solution, from usability perspective, it is better
| that we have a stable product to make Apex a dependable platform
| (and I'm sure majority of bugs could have been fikxed with
| stability).
| * Wouldn't partnerships yield more fruits - since KeySoft is
| driven by user requests, bug reports and keeping up with current
| standards, I believe more user partnerships with HW could help
| both parties in the end (not only from usability with reports and
| suggestions, but also allowing users to contribute useful gifts
| to other users in the form of user-written KeySoft extensions).
| As for responses from company (and from users), we do have
| occasional posts from HW staff (when matters that require
| clarification arises). However, the trend is that users are
| filling the role of tech support here (if they have useful
| solutions or ideas), and we do now have a situation where
| "experts" are located at key parts of the world (including "next
| generation experts" like Aine, I'd say).
| But to keep the content relevant to the subject, the above two
| questions are things that I think even users may wish to ponder
| from time to time and ask at conventions (for both ACB and NFB,
| as well as other exhibit times and locations).
| Thanks.
| Cheers,
| Joseph
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Aleeha Dudley <[email protected]
| To: Lanie <[email protected]
| Date sent: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:23 -0400
| Subject: Re: [Braillenote] more braillenote feedback suggestions
|
| Hi,
| I have seen these issues only if I accidentally press a thumb
| key while switching tasks. I don't think I've encountered it
| without the press of said thumb key.
|
|
| Aleeha
|
| On May 31, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Lanie <[email protected]> wrote:
|
| I'm sorry if some of you are getting this twice. I got a
| delivery failure, so I don't think it went through. Another
| thing that should be fixed is the way in the middle of writing or
| after switching to another application, the BrailleNote often
| deletes the text out of a plain Braille or Microsoft Word file.
| Has anyone else had this happen? I had it just a few minutes ago.
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Snow Bunny <[email protected]
| To: [email protected]
| Date sent: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:07:28 -0400
| Subject: Re: [Braillenote] more braillenote feedback suggestions
|
| Also, have a Humanware staff presence on this list. Beth
| Original message:
| In addition:
| 1. Fix the massive number of minor to serious bugs that have
| plagued
| users for years. For instance, KNG speech defaults to rate 6
| when
| reading in other languages, keymail often corrupts its own
| database,
| wireless connectivity is spotty to useless in many situations,
| you
| can't paste from the clipboard or use spellcheck in webpage edit
| fields, keychat menu items have no shortcut or the shortcut
| fails to
| activate the item, popups in keyweb still take far too long to
| move
| through, deleting characters often makes the cursor jump...
| need I go
| on?
| 2. Add promised features: multi-tasking, bluetooth object
| exchange,
| docx support (which, need I remind you, the Victor Reader has
| had for
| a couple years), unit conversion for keyplus, and so on.
| 3. Offer more than one feature in each (very expensive)
| upgrade, or
| lower/toss out the upgrade price.
| 4. Be more vocal with us, the paying customers, about
| developments and
| patches. I realize many companies don't make upcoming features
| public,
| but it would be nice to hear that the people at hw are still at
| least
| updating keysoft, instead of adding an open-source pdf
| conversion tool
| and not fixing anything.
| 5. Fix long-standing pronunciation errors. For instance, the
| abbreviations mr, ms, mrs, dr, st, and so forth should not end a
| sentance, even though they are followed by a period. Other
| words are
| still broken, like "wasted". The pronunciation dictionary needs
| a
| major overhaul, while we're on the subject: it should support,
| at
| least, spaces and numbers, though regular expressions would be
| ideal.
| Failing that, the interface just feels old and awkward.
|
| On 5/31/12, Jessica Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
| I would like to add that It would be good if the bn supported
| flash player. I have found that many sites are not accessible
| on
| the bn because you need flash player to use them. Also, an sdk
| would be good so that people outside of hw can make programs for
| the bn. Just some ideas for people who will be going to the
| conference.
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Matthew J" <[email protected]
| To: <[email protected]
| Date sent: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:18:12 +0100
| Subject: [Braillenote] more braillenote feedback suggestions
|
| Ok, here's a quick list off the top of my head. Considering the
| bn is sucha
| lackluster product, I could undoubtedly think of many more given
| time:
|
|
|
| 1: tables and footnotes in documents need to be made far more
| accessible
|
| 2: language support: writing in multiple languages is a chore,
| reading in
| them in anything but the word processor is almost impossible
|
| 3: Imap support, better syncing with outlook contacts and the
| ability to
| import CSV contact files or some other format of contacts.
| Keymail must be
| made far more intuitive and less clunky, this must include the
| reading of
| html e-mail natively.
|
| 4: the reading of secured pdfs
|
| 5: updating the internet explorer engine to something less
| prehistoric
|
| 6: the use of more IM protocols and the upgrade to the XMPP
| protocol in use,
| so that facebook, msn, ETC, can be made useable from keychat, as
| no one uses
| google talk.
|
| 7: the ability to read Excel spreadsheets.
|
| 8: a twitter client along the lines of the one the braille sense
| clients
| have would not go amiss.
|
| 9: better compatibility with windows 7 64 bit and windows 7 in
| general for
| networking, syncing ETC.
|
| 10: .docx support!
|
|
|
| I can personally attest to every problem on this list and also I
| know quite
| a few people who would quite happily use an apex if it fixed
| some
| of these
| issues. I think humanware does not realize how offputting these
| defects are
| to a large number of young, technically-able users who are
| choosing hims or
| a mainstream solution. Outside of England, the use of Braille
| note's in
| Europe is very low because of the language support issue, for
| example.
|
| Anyway, just my 2p worth,
|
| MJ
|
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:20:47 +1000
From: "Sharon S" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
To: "Tom Behler" <[email protected]>, "Braille Note e-mail list"
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <35D7D4D444D74447AE24FDF6E54B3987@SharonLaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi tom, I am a happy QT Apex user. I haven't felt a BT keyboard but I
learnt
to touch type before I learnt braille so I have always been happier on a
QT.
Also just because you now have the QT doesn't meen you can't type a
document
in braille, if you want to type a braille document then you use the s d f
and j k l keys as your braille keys.
Good luck with your new machine when it arrives and never feel bad about
asking questions to this list. We are all here to help each other out and
remember "the only silly question is one you don't ask" or so they say.
From Shaz.
BN QT Apex and PK user.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <[email protected]>
To: "Braille Note e-mail list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:31 AM
Subject: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
| Hello, everyone.
|
| Many people on this list have been extremely patient in answering the
| various questions I have posed over the past few weeks, as I have tried
to
| learn the ins and outs of the Braille Note Apex BT32. As a result, I
think
| it is only fair that I let you know of a decision I made today.
|
| Basically, I have decided to make the switch from the BT32 Braille Note
| Apex, to the QT32 Apex with the qwerty keyboard. I am still well within
the
| 30-day free exchange period, so I thought that I'd better make the
switch
| soon if I'm going to do it.
|
| It's hard for me to explain why I have decided to make the switch, but
I'll
| just say it this way. For whatever reason, even though I'm a very
| proficient Braille user, the Braille-style keyboard was just too hard
for
me
| to get used to, and to feel comfortable with. I tried a qwerty keyboard
BN
| Apex today, and the keyboard simply felt much more comfortable to me.
|
| It probably will be a few weeks until Humanware processes the change,
and
I
| get my new qwerty model. So, in the meantime, I'm going to read up on
the
| documentation I have that will be helpful with the qwerty functions.
|
| If anyone has any helpful hints, command lists, or "how to" guides for
the
| qwerty Braille Note Apex, please send them my way. I will also check
out
| the braillenote users web site to see what I can find there.
|
| I am sure at least some folks here will disagree with what I have done,
but
| it really does seem like a matter of personal preference to me, more
than
| anything else.
|
| Thanks for listening, and again, for putting up with all of my questions
of
| late.
|
| Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
|
|
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:58:16 -0700
From: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
To: "Tom Behler" <[email protected]>, "Braille Note e-mail list"
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <8860DC9106D74923AA7205624389EC8F@Terri>
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reply-type=response
Hi, Tom,
I think you did the right thing. I've always preferred qwerty keyboards.
I'm a proficient braille user, too! Just because a person prefers a
qwerty
keyboard, it doesn't mean the person isn't proficient with braille.
Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <[email protected]>
To: "Braille Note e-mail list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] Quick update from a relative newby
Hello, everyone.
Many people on this list have been extremely patient in answering the
various questions I have posed over the past few weeks, as I have tried
to
learn the ins and outs of the Braille Note Apex BT32. As a result, I
think it is only fair that I let you know of a decision I made today.
Basically, I have decided to make the switch from the BT32 Braille Note
Apex, to the QT32 Apex with the qwerty keyboard. I am still well within
the 30-day free exchange period, so I thought that I'd better make the
switch soon if I'm going to do it.
It's hard for me to explain why I have decided to make the switch, but
I'll just say it this way. For whatever reason, even though I'm a very
proficient Braille user, the Braille-style keyboard was just too hard for
me to get used to, and to feel comfortable with. I tried a qwerty
keyboard BN Apex today, and the keyboard simply felt much more
comfortable
to me.
It probably will be a few weeks until Humanware processes the change, and
I get my new qwerty model. So, in the meantime, I'm going to read up on
the documentation I have that will be helpful with the qwerty functions.
If anyone has any helpful hints, command lists, or "how to" guides for
the
qwerty Braille Note Apex, please send them my way. I will also check out
the braillenote users web site to see what I can find there.
I am sure at least some folks here will disagree with what I have done,
but it really does seem like a matter of personal preference to me, more
than anything else.
Thanks for listening, and again, for putting up with all of my questions
of late.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:33:20 -0400
From: "Shane Davidson" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] wireless on the apex.
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <006201cd40f6$919cd780$b4d68680$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I have a Braille note apex BT18 running ks9.2.
I'm trying to connect to my wireless network, that has a WPA2PSK personal
incryption and an incryption of TKIP+AES.
I tried WPA2 preshared key and TKIP and and it wouldn't connect, so I
switched to AES still with no luck.
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Note my friends BNApex QT32 running the same software version connected
using WPA2preshared and TKIP without an issue.
Thanks.
Shane
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:47:46 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] wireless on the apex.
To: Shane Davidson <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
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Try deleting the connection configuration and starting over from
scratch. Also try a normal reset.
On 6/2/12, Shane Davidson <[email protected]> wrote:
I have a Braille note apex BT18 running ks9.2.
I'm trying to connect to my wireless network, that has a WPA2PSK personal
incryption and an incryption of TKIP+AES.
I tried WPA2 preshared key and TKIP and and it wouldn't connect, so I
switched to AES still with no luck.
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Note my friends BNApex QT32 running the same software version connected
using WPA2preshared and TKIP without an issue.
Thanks.
Shane
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:30:40 -0700
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Apex and BookSense
To: bn 1 <[email protected]>, bs 1
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi. Can you pair a BrailleNote Apex with a BookSense with blue
tooth and if you can, Then what can you do once they are paired?
The Apex has keysoft version 9.1 and the BookSense has firmware
version 2.3. Thanks.
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