Hi Roselle and others, About your offlist messages, no problem. I'm just glad to know you got them okay. If patience is a virtue, then I am a Saint <sheepish grin>
Actually, I am using a microdisk to backup on to. I would never never backup to my keysoft disk, as this sounds like an invitation to problems. Thanks, Bob > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roselle Ambubuyog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Braillenote List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:35:20 +0800 (PHT) >Subject: [Braillenote] re: Viewing the contents of a backup folder >Hi Bob, >First, I don't think it's a good idea to store anything in the Keysoft Systems >Disk because you would lose them after a reset (or a RESET with some keys held >down). If I understand you correctly, you do not use a compact flash card or >microdrive or zip drive to backup the contents of the Flash Disk? I suggest >that you get any of these storage media, but preferably the cf card because >it's very small and doesn't require power. Or, if you have a PC and have >successfully established an Active Sync connection, then just keep your backup >files in the hard drive of your computer. >Another reason why backing up to the Keysoft Systems Disk is not advisable, is >that there are only 8 megs of space in that disk, whereas the Flash Disk has >either 16 or 48 MB. You're probably not yet using more than 8 MB, but when >you have, then they will no longer fit in the Keysoft Systems Disk. >Yet another reason why you shouldn't fill up the Keysoft Systems Disk with >backups is that little space in there affects certain operations (particularly >the opening and saving of files in Keyword, the opening of attachments in >Keymail, and the downloading of web pages in Keyweb, that's why deleting >temporary internet files regularly is recommended because they fill up the >Keysoft Systems Disk where they are stored). >As for your first question, I honestly see no need to back up the contents of >the Keysoft Systems Disk, given that you do not put anything there, and if you >used Active Sync for file synchronization between PC and BN, you move the >contents of the Synchronize folder created in the Keysoft Systems Disk to the >Flash Disk or some storage device which is a safer practice. All of the files >in the Keysoft Systems Disk are burnt into ROM or can be obtained by running >some program (.exe file) found in the Windows folder of that disk which cannot >be erased. >I'm thinking, you might want to save your cookies, which is in the Cookies >folder, a sub-directory of the Profiles folder, which in turn is a >sub-directory of the Windows folder of the Keysoft Systems Disk. You can do >that by selecting that Cookies sub-directory when using the Backup File >utility, but as for the rest of the Keysoft Systems Disk, there's no need to >make backups. >As for your second question, one way to avoid encountering the problem with >protected files in backup folders is to keep the files in the Flash Disk >unprotected. Thus, when they are copied during the backup operation, the >backups are also unprotected. Of course, if you have a tendency to >absent-mindedly type Y for yes in response to the confirmation about deleting >a file, then this is not advisable for you. Otherwise, like in my case, it's >OK to keep all your files unprotected. Besides, if the BN decides to throw a >fit or crash, having files protected won't spare them, <grin>. >Now, one thing I should point out is that it's not always necessary to erase >all the files in a folder before you can erase the folder. This is especially >true starting with version 4.0. At the folder prompt, you can press SPACE to >locate the folder you wish to delete and press BACKSPACE with C (CTRL with I) >to delete it, and you will be asked if you wish to delete the folder and all >its sub-folders and contents. Type Y for yes if this is really what you want >to do. >Alternatively, you can erase a folder and all its sub-folders and contents >using the Erase Folder option under the Folder Manager (accessed by pressing F >twice from the Main Menu, then E). If you just wish to delete a sub-folder, >then when asked for the folder to be deleted, press SPACE with T (CTRL with T) >first, before hitting SPACE to navigate to the parent folder, where you tap >the ENTER key to select, then SPACE again to locate the sub-folder and if >that's what you wish to delete, then press ENTER twice. You will again >receive a confirmation prompt. >If you get a message that the folder cannot be deleted because it is not >empty, this means you have to go into the folder and delete all its contents >first. This usually happens if the folder contains a .cdb file, or any >protected file. >Remember that you don't have to erase the files in a folder one by one. You >can use wildcard characters when you get to the prompt asking for the name of >the file to be erased. At that prompt, press SPACE with X (READ with X) twice >for All Files as the entry type, and then press SPACE with dots 3-5 or just >dots 1-6 (the asterisk, SHIFT with 8), and hit ENTER. You will be informed >about the number of files that are in the folder, and asked if you wish to >verify deletion for each. If you type Y for yes, you will be prompted >confirmation of deletion for every file. If you type N, the BN will go ahead >with erasing and would just let you know how many were erased when it's done. >Hope this covers everything, >Roselle >PS: I'm sorry I have been delinquent in replying to your off-list messages, >but I did receive them all. Please just be patient with me, <smile>. >>----- QUOTED MESSAGE ----- >>Sent by: bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Hi Roselle, Laura and others. >>Roselle, as usual, your explanation is a good one. >> One thing that worried me about backing up my keysoft system disk is that I >> have a folder on that one called "storage card". This is the folder I am >> backing my BN to. I was afraid that the system would set up a redundant >> loop, whereas it tried to backup the folder I was backing up to, which would >> change, which would cause the system to try to back up this folder . . . on >> and on until I ran out of storage. Fortunately that didn't happen. >>My question is: is there any time when you would want to backup your keysoft >>system disk with the backup utility? >>Also, is there a good way to delete a backup folder? I always get warnings >>about protected files, and hidden files which prevent the system from >>deleting a folder. Then I have to go in to the file structure itself, find >>the protected or hidden files, get rid of them and come back out and try to >>delete the folder again. Needless to say, this is a very very time consuming >>process. >>Is there a quicker way of deleting a backup folder? >>Thanks, >>Bob >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
