hi don,
i was just looking through some old messages that i've saved in my braillenote 
email folder and thought it might be worth commenting on a few issues which you 
raised.
as i mentioned in a previous email to the list, i have not yet been able to 
find a house number.  like you, i'm always prompted to accept zero which, as 
you stated, could end you up either end of what might be a very long street.
i think ramp seems to mean a roundabout.
finally, the a55 from holyhead to bangor was only built and completed about 5 
years ago, but when travelling on this rd i'm informed that i'm on it.
to end on a positive note, i find the space with x command which tells you the 
next intersection a really handy feature.  if i'm looking for a rd that i'm not 
familiar with i sometimes have this information repeated every, say, ten 
seconds.


> ----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Contribute Braillenote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:24:57 +0000
>Subject: [Braillenote] gps mark 2.

>Hello Listers, Firstly, may I apologise for the length of this email, but I 
>would really like to know whether the GPS mark 2  system performs better in 
>other countries than it appears to here in the UK.  All will be explained if 
>you read my precis of an email which I forwarded to Pulsedata several days 
>ago.  I contend it raises some issues which demand comment, but, so far, 
>though I gather the matter is being discussed, no official comment has been 
>received.  Of course, if the GPS system is of no interest to you, please 
>exercise your prerogative and use the delete command.  I am not in the 
>business of knocking Pulsedata, but I am genuinely interested in knowing if in 
>the States, or in Ausralia, or indeed anywhere, the system works better for 
>you.  Here follows the  email:

>I fervently believe that I have not been specially picked-out by Pulsedata,  
>nor that the area of the Uk in which I reside is a special case.  Therefore, 
>the multitude of faults and weaknesses I have detected in their gps mark 2 
>system, recently released for use with the Braillenote family of units, are 
>definitely not the result of potential personal prejudice and undoubtedly 
>could be replicated countless times throughout this country.  The system 
>purports to guide a person to the very door of a required address, whether you 
>make the trip by car or on foot.  I live in a small village just south of 
>Shrewsbury, the county town of Shropshire in the west midlands some fifty 
>miles west of Birmingham in the UK.
>     The manual suggests that, in "virtual" mode, it can provide a route from 
> where you live, to where you wish to travel.  I was told it  was very good on 
> guiding one in cities.  However, as I live in a rural village, I telephoned a 
> friend who lives in just such an environment.  Having set in his address as 
> the starting point, I asked him to give me the address of a house in his 
> area, the route to which he knew.  Firstly, we fed in the name of the street, 
> which was soon recognised, however, number 35 produced a negative result.  
> "number not recognised" said the machine, "will enter zero instead".  This 
> seems to mean that one would be guided to the end of the street in question.  
> Well that's not too bad, one might say.  We began to follow the route 
> suggested by the machine, fortunately not physically.  "Very good," my friend 
> said, as turning by turning the route was divulged.  The snag came when we 
> reached the actual street where number 35 definitely existed.  It guided us 
> to the end of the said street, but unfortunately, it was a very long street, 
> and when we were at last told we had reached our objective, we were almost 
> two miles from where we wanted to be.  I subsequently checked whether it was 
> a fairly new house, but was told that the exact year wasn't known, but it was 
> certainly built in pre-war times; that is, before 1939.
>    I have a niece living in Solihull, just south of Birmingham.  Anybody 
> travelling by car from Shrewsbury, would definitely use the A 5' followed by 
> several miles on the M54 motorway; it is a journey of just over sixty-four 
> miles.  Our GPS mark 2 system, however, ignored both these trunk routes and 
> suggested a route which took us a long way south, almost to the town of 
> bridgnorth, before taking us east,  and then north, to reach Solihull.  Now 
> it was true that, had we followed the recommended route, we would eventually 
> have reached my niece, but the journey was considerably longer, being some 
> eighty-eight miles.
>     Why was the vital M 54 motorway  being disregarded? it was in fact opened 
> in 1983.  Are the UK maps provided with this system really over twenty years 
> old? that could be part of the problem.  However, the car-drivers in the area 
> whom I consulted, said this was nonsense as even before the M 54' the old A 
> 5, laid-down by Thomas Telford in the early 1800s, was always a more direct 
> route than the excessively
>convoluted route recommended.

>    Another of my nieces lives with her husband and two children in a village 
> about four miles from Penzance in Cornwall.  This was a trip which my wife 
> and I made only a couple of months ago; so we knew the distance was 302 
> miles.  The manual had warned me it would take some time for the system to 
> work out a route;  it did.  At last, however, a route was produced, it 
> seriously suggested a trip of some 474 miles.  I will not bore you with the 
> precise route suggested, suffice it to say that it commenced by recommending 
> travelling over 40 miles in the opposite direction.   No! it won't do.

>  Finally, though surely no more examples are really necessary, (though I gave 
> more in my email to Pulsedata), I had to do some work for a customer who 
> lives on the other side.  of Shrewsbury.  Now my wife, having lived around 
> here for many years, knew the way; it was just as well.  The GPS system 
> suggested a route with a distance of 13,49 miles; the actual clocked distance 
> on the generally accepted route was 9,3 miles.

>     When one studied the lengthy route to Cornwall, one kept encountering the 
> word "ramp." I thought at first that it was a modern term for motorway, 
> however, nobody I've yet spoken to knows this term.  I wondered if it was an 
> American term, but, consulting Webster's dictionary revealed that, if indeed 
> it was, then they were not aware of it.  However, one can get used to new 
> terms, but surely, if the word "ramp" is synonymous with motorway, then at 
> least it should be accompanied by the number of that motorway.  It is 
> obviously not helpful to be instructed to turn right and drive for miles on 
> "ramp", without indicating which one.

>    A further suggestion is that when asked for a street, pressing  an agreed 
> code, should establish the town centre as your destination.  I feel it is 
> indeed a little curious that I cannot ask for a route, for example, to 
> Blackpool, (a well known seaside resort), unless I can quote the name of an 
> actual street.  I know I can ask for a list of streets, you should try it, if 
> you can spare the time, and unless you know the town well, what would be the 
> point? and of course a postcode, (zip code) search should be included; many 
> houses have no numbers but are known by name.
>    Finally, may I say that I consider this system has great potential.  The 
> satellite linkage with the route created in the "virtual" mode, I found 
> worked very well.  However, the advantage of mark 2 over mark 1, is the 
> "virtual" mode; it must be made to perform better.  Though the "points of 
> interest" file is rather disappointing, consisting as it does mostly of a 
> list of Petrol (gas) stations, Incidentally, most of these I have checked in 
> this area appear to have closed-down, in some cases many years ago, yet one 
> can add to this list, but of course one has to personally visit the would-be 
> location.

>Please do reply to the list if you have any comments or experiences which will 
>help make this system more useful.  At the moment, I certainly can't trust it. 
> Don Cooper.


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