Marie; 
What are the BT commands for read with O and read with U?
I think you are talking about space 4 for sentance, but I do not know what
the other one is.

Terry Powers


-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Kristic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:41 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: re: using hymnals - Re: [Braillenote] The Cursor


If you wanted each press of READ with U or READ with O to move you between
verses, you *would* have to insert the Binding Space between the sentences
of the verses.  So, if, for example, the first verse had three sentences,
you'd insert a Binding Space between Sentence 1 and Sentence 2, another
between Sentence 2 and Sentence 3, and then, at the end of Sentence 3, you'd
tap ENTER to produce a carriage return which would separate the end of Verse
1 with the beginning of Verse 2.  You would continue the process of
inserting a Binding Space between the sentences of a verse, and separating
the end of a verse from the beginning of another with carriage returns.  In
hymns with choruses, an indentation of the chorus would help to
differentiate it from the verses when one is reading with the Braille
display while using the cursor navigation commands to move between parts of
the hymn, as one can immediately tell that the chorus, unlike the verses,
does not start displaying on cell 1 of the display.  Anyway, back to songs
with just verses, and this is just a suggestion which you don't have to
follow, but if you wanted to make sure you hadn't done something like
perhaps accidentally skipping a verse by pressing READ with U/O twice
quickly, and you didn't know the beginnings of every verse, you could type
the verse number before the verse to indicate which verse it is (the number
1 before Verse 1 of a song, the number 2 before Verse 2 of the same song,
etc.); if you just put the number without a period, you wouldn't necessarily
*have* to have a Binding Space in between the numbers because the "Sentence
and Paragraph" mode only considers something the end of a sentence if there
is a period and a regular SPACE after it, so you would only have to place a
Binding Space if you put a period after your numbers.

I appologize because, reading back through my message now, I see that I did
indeed imply that one only had to insert a Binding Space for hymns with
verses and a chorus.  However, in order for the READ with U/O commands to
correctly move you to the beginnings of the verses, even if the hymn does
not have a chorus, the Binding Space and carriage return must still be
placed accordingly.

HTH,
Maria

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul Henrichsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>Sent: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:56:01 -0800
>Subject: re: using hymnals - Re: [Braillenote] The Cursor

>Hi, Maria.  It sounds like, from your explanation, that you only have to
put
>the binding space in where there is a chorus.  Is that correct? So for
hymns
>where there is no chorus that repeats, the insertion of a binding space
>wouldn't be an issue.  Is that correct also?
>I am going to save this excellent message in my braille note e-mial folder.
>Thanks.


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