Beth,

I can't answer your question about Thumb Drives.  Can you unpack a book from 
bookshare onto your brille note? Of course you can.  Now I'll admit that I'm 
not a Braille Note user. Once I was looking at PDI products at a convention.  I 
saw the nice product with the braille display, too.  Nice, but the price 
wasn't.  In any case as a former braille and speak user, I had had extensive 
online experience with a very portable unit and reading for hours uner 
earphones or otherwise.Well, first he showed me a thing with a typewriter 
keyboard.  I didn't want that.  I wanted a braille keyboard, because I've 
learned ascii braille and such.  Well, he sold me a voice note, but when I had 
questions, I thought I had a Braille Note.  After all a braille and speak was 
something that read ascci but allowed one to write in braille.Hence my 
reasoning.  I thought I just had a braille note without the display.  Well, 
actually, that's what I really have.  The programming is so similar that 
without kno!
wing it, I could ask for help about unzipping files and downloading from 
bookshare, and the commands worked.  One day I made a comment, and Dean or 
someone informed me that my thing is called a voice note.  Okay, so you want to 
get a book from bookshare.  Go on in computer braille, the same as ascii.  
That's called computer braille in my system.  Once you have chosen a brf file
and the book is in your  in your download folder. You can log off.  just copy 
it to your mybooks file on your flash disk.  I set my system to grade2 braille 
here, go in there, and open the book.  I don't need to save the book, when it 
asks, because I copied, not moved.  The defaults will work most of the time.  
Don't have to reset much.  At least I don't.   If the book is undr copyright, 
you'll need your password, the same one you used to log in.  If it's not 
copyrighted any more, you don't need it. Just hit return.  My system allows me 
to type it in anyway, if I don't know.  Now as far as I know, you can erase 
files including books without a problem.  Now if you're using Braille Note or 
Voice note to get email, remember a couple of things. First, you can read 
emails, trash them or store them.  After you're finished, send the emails you  
don't want to your trash folder.  You empty the trash, and always free up 
dataspace from the setup menu in your email.  Never let that go.  W!
hy, because you want your books stored on your flash disk.Use the file manager 
menu to clean up your download folder.  Once you've seen that you're reading 
books in your bookfile, clean up your download folder.  It won't erase books 
elsewere.
Besides, there is one other thing. Did you buy a compact flash card or a disk 
drive that can load a disk? In my opinion, those are just storage units.  Never 
leave them connected when you turn off your system to turn it on again.  Put 
them away before you shut down your little guy.    Oh, and about unzipping. 
Let's say you're an ACb member, and you want that magazine that comes out every 
month or two.  You just choose the zip file, and it goes into your download 
folder.  You use your file options to change the extention to bks, and then you 
send it to my books, the bookshare thing. This time you set the system to 
computer braille, and it will open without a password.  The system will ask for 
one, but just hit return, and you've just unzipped a file.    So what's a 
zipped file? You're probably tired of reading, but I'll give it a good guess.  
Okay, at some level each character you type has eight bits in it. What do bits 
mean? They're on and off circuits at the very basics at yo!
ur system.  Then there are several programs that translate without you knowing 
about it.  At the very basic level there just on and off switches and to find 
out the exact value, you have to convert the value given in base ten to base 
two. Well, that means that anything in straight ascii is just a long string 
that's on your disk.  When someone wants to send a compressed or zipped file, 
he has found a way to ball up the string.  Whether it opens or not depends on 
the programs. That is what I think. Hope this helps.  You don't have to convert 
anything.  It's what our system does.  Hope I helped.

Brenda Mueller
>  ----- Original Message -----
>From: "beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:00:45 -0400
>Subject: [Braillenote] Thumb drives

>Hi, does anyone use these with the BN and will they be usable with the PK?
>They store the equivalent of 100 floppies, I understand and are small
>USB-attachable storage drives, so I learned from another list.  Thanks.

>Also, can you unpack Bookshare books on the BN and PK?  I'm in over my head
>here, don't know what that or unzipping mean.

>Thanks.  Beth


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