That is all fine and good but this isn't the place to discuss the Braille Sense. I would think that is more appropriate for the notetakers list or some other independent list. Then again, North Korea may get stupid and there goes the braille sense into nonsense and worse!

Jim Aldrich

At 09:07 PM 06/11/2005 , you wrote:
Hi, Richard, But how many people really use the more powerful word processor commands that the bn has? Maybe lots of people do. I don't know. I don't. I usually just want to take notes. The braille sense is supposed to be able to do footnotes and end notes, or so I have heard. They also seem to be coming out with upgrades rather rapidly, with a new one coming out in just a few weeks. There was a nice discussion on the occusource conference page on Friday. I suspect gw will put it up on their site soon. The speed at which they are coming out with software upgrades is impressive to say the least.
At 6/10/2005, you wrote:

I find that opinion, not fact dominates here.
Frankly, the biggest problem I see with the Braille Sense is that is a
relatively new product.
Since the manual is a translation from Korean, there are bound to be
areas where it is not as clear as one might like.
However, the product already has several advantages.  For a student, it
can play Daisy books.
It can stream audio.
It can connect via usb.
The Word processor has quite a way to go before I would consider it to
be in the same league as the BN family of products, but it is $1000
cheaper, and I feel that it is a product worth watching.


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Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote compared to BrailleSense


Hi, List,

Has anyone seen the BrailleSense?  How does it compare with the
BrailleNote?

I have never seen one, but I have read some of the manual for the
BrailleSense and I can make some observations:

1.  The BrailleSense has some software features like Daisy Player and
the
ability to record things.

2.  It has all the ports of the BN plus two USB ports, one a master port
and
one a slave port.

3.  The speech is elloquence, and I don't like it as much as Keynote
Gold.
I used to use eloquence on my PC and found its voice to be too strident.

4.  There is no QWERTY model, a disadvantage to me because I prefer the
QWERTY keyboard, but you can plug in a USB QT keyboard.  I think you can
do
the same with the BN PK.

5.  The manual is not as easy to understand as the BrailleNote's manual.

6.  Nothing is mentioned about what braille translator is used nor does
the
manual mention what type of software is used to read the programs'
information.  The BrailleNote manual states Keysoft is the software
which
reads the information  and runs the word processor, calculator, etc.

7.  All of the BN family will allow you to read sentence by sentence,
but
the BrailleSense has no such option.

8.  The BN cursor never blinks, but the BrailleSense has blinking
cursor.  I
hate blinking cursors!

9.  The BN has more flexibility fo reading punctuation than the BS.

10.  I think there is an easier learning curve for the BN than for the
BS,
especially for people like me who aren't used to BT keyboards.

11.  The BS's word processor will allow you to create headers and
footers,
but it won't let you move or copy sentences and it won't let you turn
page
numbering off.  Not being able to move/copy sentences is a disadvantage.

I'd rather have that feature than headers and footers.

12.  The BS will allow you to use overwrite or insert mode, but when you
are
in insert mode, the cursor blinks all the time.  I prefer the BN's still

cursor.

13.  I like the seamless environment of Keysoft.  I wouldn't want to see

dialog boxes and all the other graphics the BS shows.

I conclude that the BN and Keysoft meet my current needs, but I would
like
to see improvements in Keymail and Keyweb.   I believe the BS probably
has
bugs in it, too.  For what it's worth, I'm glad I bought the BN and I
don't
think the BS would meet my needs as well as the BN does.

Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.  Army MARS call sign
AAT9PX,
California


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