Hi Lisa,

1) I've never had your problem, as I've always had both copies.  I don't know 
why the "Translate between Braille and text" option isn't working for you 
because this should translate KeyWord Braille to KeyWord text documents and 
vice versa.  Note, however, that I said KeyWord  Braille and text, meaning that 
those are the only types of documents that that particular option handles.  If 
you want to convert a non-KeyWord type text document to KeyWord Braille, use 
the "Import File" option of the Translation submenu of the File Manager; after 
you select that it's a text file, you'll be asked whether you wish to translate 
the document into Braille, which will create a KeyWord Braille copy of the 
document instead of the default of importing non-KeyWord type text documents as 
KeyWord text documents.  The "Export File" option of the Translation Menu of 
the File Manager allows you to change both KeyWord and non-KeyWord type 
documents into any of the supported file types of the BN except the standard 
KeyWord Braille and text types because the Import feature serves to translate 
non-KeyWord type documents into KeyWord, so try this option.  However, when 
translating into a different format, you should always still have the original 
document in its original format.  BTW, when asked, during import and export, to 
which device you wish to import/export to, press F for "File", and the next 
time you select either procedure, you should be offered "File" by default, so 
you can just press ENTER.  The "Translate into Braille?" prompt is a yes or no 
question, and with the "Export to which file type?" prompt of exporting, use 
[SPACE with dots 3-4], [CONTROL with SPACE] cycle through the different types, 
pressing ENTER to accept the appropriate value.

2) A useful command you should use is pressing the ADVANCE and NEXT thumb keys 
together.  This cycles between displaying the current document only Grade II, 
6-Dot Computer Braille, or 8-Dot Computer Braille, but note that the first 
press displays the currently selected grade; therefore, you must press it at 
least twice to change to the next option.  The only option this command doesn't 
include is Grade I, in which case you have to change the "Prefforred Reading 
Grade" option in the Braille Display Options of the Options Menu.  Also check 
the "Text Document Reading Grade" setting, and make sure it's set to "Preferred 
Reading Grade" (like the thumb key command, the three options are the preferred 
grade and the 6- or 8-Dot Computer Braille options, which is why the "Preferred 
Reading Grade" setting being Grade I is the only way to have text documents 
translated on the Braille display in Grade I).  This setting is for all text 
documents, however, so you would have to change the "Preferred Reading Grade" 
setting again when you no longer wanted text documents being displayed as Grade 
I when translated on the Braille display, whereas the thumb key command is only 
for that one document, and the setting for opening a text document is always 
the Text Document Reading Grade by default, so it's easy to change the grade 
for that reading session of only that document if you need to.  Of course, this 
only works for text documents because this command governs Braille display 
translation of a document, and a Braille document is not translated into any 
grade on the display but rather kept in the grade it was written.  If you want 
to get an idea of formatting, you should press the PREVIOUS and NEXT thumb keys 
together several times until you are on Edit Mode, which will show you the most 
formatting; if you wish, you can also go to Layout mode, but I've found Edit 
more useful.  As with the first thumb key command I gave for this question 
number, the first press reflects the current mode.  Also, the default mode for 
every document is the Automatic mode.

3) Use the ADVANCE and NEXT thumb key combination again to cycle to the 
appropriate grade of Grade II, and see whether the text document appears as 
such.  You shouldn't have to do that every time you open these certain text 
documents, but it just happens that a text document will occasionally appear as 
Computer Braille every once in a while despite what the Text Document Reading 
Grade is set for.

4) You only receive the "Review the Options" prompt in non-KeyWord type 
documents, so you shouldn't be receiving it on such documents as KeyWord text 
and Braille documents.

HTH,
Maria

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Lisa Ehlers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:00:38 +1000
>Subject: [Braillenote] file translation questions

>Hi Listers,
>I have a couple questions regarding translating files.

>1.  Sometimes when I translate a Braille keyword file into text the original 
>file is somehow lost or the data in it.  The text file is there but the 
>original Braille file isn't or it is missing all of its data.  How can I take 
>a text document and get it back into a Braille document? I have tried going 
>through the translation mening through the option of translate text to braille 
>without any luck.

>2.  Sometimes I would like to read my text documents in computer Braille like 
>the way it should look in print.  How do I accoplish this?

>3.  Sometimes I am only able to read my text documents in computer Braille and 
>not in Grade 2.  Why does this happen and how can I change this?

>4.  Sometimes when I open text documents after translating them I do not get 
>the message about review the options? Why when I'm opening the document for 
>the first time and this also happens on subsequent openings of the file.

>Thanks for your time and your help.
>Lisa


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