Dear Kelley,

I'm also very interested in how you are able to be a cashier. Please contact me off list at

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Thanks, Lissi

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Stanfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:54 PM
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I have always been a Braille user. My friend Craig and I used the fact that I'm a faster typer in Braille than on a computer keyboard in my justification for the BrailleNote when I was starting work in the elementary school. When I was in school, I used the early Blazie now Freedon Scientific note takers and had to put two spaces at the end of sentences. I love not doing that when I Braille! I've had to not lose that typing skill as I use a computer at home for e-mails, and at work for typing things for my boss. It doesn't take much to switch between the two ways of typing. When I'm at the Braille keyboard I use one space like i learned when I learned Braille as a child.

By the way Terry, I'll send you a separate off list message about how I do my job as a cashier. I figured that the best way to go since it's off topic and you seemed the only one interested in how i do this.

Kelly Stanfield

----- Original Message ----- From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:39 AM
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I agree with you Karen. I love the BT. I do enough typing at work, I love the braille keyboard. the fewer keys the fewer errors! The commands on the
BN are very easy to understand.  I am sure glad I got mine when I did.  I
sure can not imagine anyone making a double space bar. It took me a while
to get used to the slant of the keys, but I would not give it up for the
world!
My sight is getting worse so I am slowly converting to just braille. It is
something we just have to accept.
Terry Powers


-----Original Message-----
From: Karen McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:25 PM
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That settles it for me.  I have always wondered about the difference
concerning the Braille displays in the two units. I'm a very fast Braille
reader, and I would prefer the one with the better Braille display and it
wouldn't matter to me what else the other unit had to offer. That's my two
cents worth.

Karen
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Truong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:50 PM
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Hi,

I actually have both units! A PM bx440 and a BN32. Personally I prefer the PM because I love the ability to script my screen reader and I love the ability to experiment with third party products Such as Skype for pocket PC, Resco Audio player Recorder, Pocket Player etc etc. I'm also able to try a
range of compact flash cards ranging from fm radio tuner cards to  Mobile
phone CF cards.  Basically as long as the software on these CF cards are
accessible and the third party software has drivers for the Mobile 2003
operating system, I'm good to go.  But even if the software isn't
accessible, the Jaws scripting language can take care of that in most cases.

Having said all of that, my Partner Robyn prefers the BN32 for it's
simplistic approach to the everyday tasks of Email, Web browsing, contacts
management, database management and file management etc.  Heck, she just
loves Keysoft! She absolutely loves the Braille on the BN which I have to say is much better than the Braille on the PM Braille displays. The Braille
on the BN is a lot easier to feel than the Braille on the PM displays and
that's even with the PM Display set to 100% firmness.

Ah well, having both units has at least prevented any more domestic
arguments over who would have the use of a PDA for the day. Now she takes
the BN32 to work and I've got the Pac Mate.  Surely that can't be a bad
thing.

David Truong

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isaac Obie
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:57 AM
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Hi Susan,
I like the PM! I just don't like reading the manual! If someone sat and
taught me the thing, I'd learn it very quickly! I've noticed this already! but I've not really had any one teach me the BN. I think I'd prefer the PM if I had my choice. I think it's a power machine and it's really for power
users. No offense meant, I wouldn't recommend the PM for the little old
ladies and gentlemen of the world. <smile>
Isaac

On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Susan Stageberg wrote:

I agree with Jim bout learning the BrailleNote with very little effort. I
had opportunity to thoroughly test a PacMate with the BT keyboard. I found the multi-layered commands very hard to remember from one time to the next
and while I realize that the PacMate is a very sophisticated and powerful
little critter, it just never floated my boat. All this is to say what we
all keep saying: this is really, really an individual thing. Not only do
different people have different needs when it comes to a portable device,
but different people think differently, and what seems logical and intuitive to one may be completely Greek to the next. PacMate comes under that Greek
category as far as I'm concerned.

Susie


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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:10 PM
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Hi Beth,

What you say is so, but I can say from my personal experience I was doing
a
great deal with my BN in a very short time after receiving it. I was able

to feel very comfortable with it during a convention presentation.  It
really doesn't take much to accomplish a great deal with a BN, VN or PK.
I
think I could learn a competition product in time but it would take more
time for me to do so. I agree! One eventually needs to find the patience

to read any part of the manual.

Feel free to write me privately about my next question if you wish, but am

curious to find out when you hope to decide on which notetaker you will
get?  Was just wondering!

Jim

At 05:15 AM 06/02/2005 , you wrote:
>Hi, all.  I would like to point out that, no matter how intuitive a
system
>is, there is still a large learning curve associated with it.  You must
>read, study and learn the manual of the BN, just as you would the PM.
Beth
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