Hi, Kelly: Go to the top of the list with dots 1,2,3 chord. Press dots 1,2,4 chord, then F. Enter the text you want to find. When you find the number you want to delete, press dots 2,5 chord to delete the work. Many times, if in a textbook, you will see a line of dot 1,4's with the number at the end. You can even search out those, and delete the word. Hope this is what you wanted to know.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Stanfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > Darn to your not being able to help with BT commands. I'm using a BT. Any > ideas out there? > > Kelly > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stacey Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > Kelly, > > Do you have a qt or bt?? > > With a qt, I go to the top of the document with read with t. At that > > point, I do read with f for fidn and then f for forward. I use Braille > > imput to enter the number sign and 1 and press enter. When I find the > > first 1 that I want to delete, I press control k. After that, I use read > > with n to search for the next ocurrance of a 1 anbd delete that one. I do > > this until I've found and deleted all numbers with ones. At that point I > > go back to the top of the document and repeat the process using numbers 2 > > through 9. > > IF you use the find and replace function you might accidently delete > > words. This way, you can double check what you've found before deleting. > > It really doesn't take all that long. If it's a bookshare book, it can > > take a little llonger because they have more page numbers sometimes. > > Hope this helps. Sorry I can't help with bt commands. > > Stacey > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Kelly Stanfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:42:30 -0500 > >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > >>I myself read right over the page numbers while reading the book on my > >>Braille display. But, how would one get rid of the page numbers and make > >>the book reading all the easier? I can't search for an occurrence of a > >>number sign and have the BN somehow delete all htose words. What if it's > >>a > >>word with the b.e sign in it? > > > >>Kelly Stnafield > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Stacey Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:51 PM > >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > > >>> Hi Monica, > >>> I edit out page numbers from web braille books all the time using my > >>> vnqt. > >>> It really doesn't take too long now that I've come up with an easy way > >>> of > >>> doing it. Laura who is on this list gave me some good pointers. > >>> Stacey and Amigo > > > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Monica Lofton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>>>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:15:06 -0500 > >>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > >>>>I wouldn't advise editing them out. It would take forever to do this, > >>>>and > >>>>besides, you might need to refer back to them for some reason. I stated > >>>>earlier that they kind of bothered me with continuous speech, but I'm > >>>>getting used to it since I realized it is page numbers. I also said they > >>>>don't bother me one bit in braille, and they don't. Yet, by the same > >>>>token, > >>>>I can see how some might be thrown by them. Perhaps someone only reads > >>>>braille at certain times because of finger insensitivity, or they aren't > >>>>a > >>>>fast or fluent reader for what ever other reason. Seeing the number in > >>>>the > >>>>middle of the display, unlike in the corner of a page, could be a little > >>>>confusing to some folks. As someone pointed out previously, the page > >>>>numbers > >>>>are put in by web braille, not Humanware; but they can toggle > >>>>punctuation > >>>>so > >>>>why not numbers for those who need it. As for me, I don't need that kind > >>>>of > >>>>toggle, but I try to fit myself in others' shoes to see why they might > >>>>need > >>>>such a thing. > >>>>Monica Lofton > >>>>professional Email: > > > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>>MSN and personal Email: > > > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:27 PM > >>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > > >>>>The page numbers in web braille books are created by the people who > >>>>braille > >>>>the books. They have nothing to do with Humanware or PDI. You cannot > >>>>turn > >>>>them off. The only way you can get rid of them is to delete them > >>>>manually > >>>>from the file. > > > >>>>Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign > >>>>AAT9PX, > >>>>California > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:24 PM > >>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > > >>>>> Do they just use number sign and the number or do they use pg number > >>>>> sign > >>>>> and the number? > >>>>> If they use the pg method, it would be a lot easier to remove the page > >>>>> numbers and not other numbers. the best would be for them to create a > >>>>> page > >>>>> on and off. > > > >>>>> terry Powers > > > > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Sherry Gomes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:05 AM > >>>>> To: 'Braillenote List' > >>>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > > >>>>> i think i should clarify something. This discussion began because i > >>>>> asked > >>>>> if there was a command to turn off page number reading because it > >>>>> annoys > >>>>> me. > >>>>> I don't feel I was being petty by asking a simple question. When > >>>>> several > >>>>> people said that they edit them out, I said I am not interested in > >>>>> doing > >>>>> that because it is a small enough annoyance that it isn't worth my > >>>>> time > >>>>> to > >>>>> do that. I don't think it was a petty question. I'd bet sighted > >>>>> people > >>>>> don't consciously read the page numbers in print books, especially > >>>>> things > >>>>> they read for pleasure. I don't read page numbers when I read hard > >>>>> copy > >>>>> braille. If I read web braille on the PC which I have only done once > >>>>> or > >>>>> twice, I translate them with duxbury into word documents, and if I > >>>>> wanted > >>>>> to > >>>>> do so, I could just by pages and take out the page numbers, which > >>>>> again > >>>>> isn't worth the effort for something I'm not likely to read again. > >>>>> however, > >>>>> whether or not it's petty, I'm afraid the reading of both print and > >>>>> braille > >>>>> page numbers does get in my way to the point that I just will probably > >>>>> decide not to read web braille books that have both after I finish the > >>>>> one > >>>>> I'm on. > > > >>>>> The other day I was reading a nonfiction book about the problem of > >>>>> forest > >>>>> fires in the western US. This book was of great interest to me > >>>>> because > >>>>> I > >>>>> live in the western US and the problem has been getting worse. there > >>>>> were > >>>>> many statistics of acres of land destroyed, numbers of fire fighters, > >>>>> vehicles, years, ... all kinds of numbers ... For me, having the > >>>>> crazy > >>>>> page > >>>>> numbers in there just made understanding some of the details much more > >>>>> confusing with hearing lots of official numbers of different things > >>>>> mixed > >>>>> up > >>>>> with "com180-a181" or something like that. Yes, the problem would be > >>>>> eliminated by reading braille, but when i am reading before going to > >>>>> sleep, > >>>>> I use speech. > > > >>>>> So, anyway, that was my question and I didn't think it was anything > >>>>> out > >>>>> of > >>>>> line and it was definitely not made as a complaint about he braille > >>>>> note, > >>>>> because anything with numbers on it read aloud will be read aloud. > >>>>> So, > >>>>> it's > >>>>> the same with jaws. > > > >>>>> Sherry > > > > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Der > >>>>> Walt > >>>>> Riana > >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 11:42 PM > >>>>> To: Braillenote List > >>>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > > >>>>> How petty can one become! If sighted people starts to complain about > >>>>> page numbers reflected on each page, people will just laugh at them. > >>>>> Speech takes less than half a second to say the number and with > >>>>> Braille > >>>>> one can even pass it over in less time. Besides, in non-fiction > >>>>> material it may be very necessary to have page numbers displayed and > >>>>> it > >>>>> would be a much more valid complaint if they're not there. > > > > > >>>>> Also, if one listens to a book which was converted to a txt file with > >>>>> a > >>>>> screen reader on the pc, page numbers are also usually included, as it > >>>>> then forms part of the text. If one has the time and really feels > >>>>> that > >>>>> strong about it, you can edit it out, using the find and replace all > >>>>> command, running the risk of losing other numbers written in the same > >>>>> fassion as well. You'll have to go through the process nine times, > >>>>> searching for all the digits and replacing them with nothing, or > >>>>> something like a space, which will not be spoken. > >>>>> Riana > > > > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Monica Lofton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Sent: 30 May 2005 10:31 > >>>>> To: Braillenote List > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > >>>>> I don't like hearing them as I'm continuously reading by speech > >>>>> either. > >>>>> Monica Lofton > >>>>> professional Email: > > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>>> MSN and personal Email: > > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Sherry Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] > >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:11 PM > >>>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > > >>>>> Yes. and they aren't an annoyance when being read in braille. but they > >>>>> are > >>>>> an annoyance when reading with the speech turned on. Especially if > >>>>> you > >>>>> are > >>>>> reading a nonfiction book that might have a lot of numbers in it as I > >>>>> was > >>>>> this weekend. I got lost several times in whether or not this was a > >>>>> print > >>>>> page, a braille page or a number of something in the book. and when I > >>>>> read > >>>>> hard copy braille, I don't look at the page number when I read. it's > >>>>> just a > >>>>> personal thing, I guess. It has always bothered me to have to hear > >>>>> page > >>>>> numbers read, when I'm trying to read for pleasure and lose myself in > >>>>> a > >>>>> story. It breaks up my concentration. > > > >>>>> sherry > > > > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri > >>>>> Pannett > >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 10:37 AM > >>>>> To: Braillenote List > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > > >>>>> I can't understand why page numbers are such an annoyance. Every > >>>>> book, > >>>>> whether it's braille or print, has page numbers in it. > > > >>>>> When I read LOTR using speech, I first edited the print page numbers > >>>>> so > >>>>> they > > > >>>>> would sound right. But I would never take page numbers out of a book. > > > >>>>> The reason why I don't put page numbers in my Bibles is because I > >>>>> often > >>>>> redo > > > >>>>> the files when I find an error. > > > >>>>> Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign > >>>>> AAT9PX, > >>>>> California > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Stacey Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:40 AM > >>>>> Subject: re: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Sherry, > >>>>>> I have avnqt and I just delete all of the page numbers. > >>>>>> Stacey > > > > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>From: "Sherry Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>To: "braille note list" <[email protected] > >>>>>>>Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:38:41 -0700 > >>>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] book reader and page numbers > > > >>>>>>>Hi, > > > >>>>>>>Sometimes, when I read a book at night, i pick a web braille book and > >>>>> use > >>>>>>>the BN. When I do this, I turn on the speech and just listen. Is > >>>>> there a > >>>>>>>way to tell the BN not to read page numbers? Drives me crazy and > >>>>> breaks > >>>>>>>the > >>>>>>>flow of the reading for me. Thanks. > > > >>>>>>>sherry > > > > > >>>>>>>___ > >>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > >>>>>> ___ > >>>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > >>>>> __________ NOD32 1.1120 (20050601) Information __________ > > > >>>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>>>> http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > > > >>>>___ > >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > >>>>___ > >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > >>> ___ > >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > >>___ > >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > ___ > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >
