I was the one who made that repair about a year ago.The repair is still
holding and the machine is working fine.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Tonedeef <[email protected]> wrote:

> Quick update after reading more forum entries and getting
> frustrated....
>
> I'm seeing several instances of brittle wiring on the temp sensor...
>
> Anyways, I resorted to brute force and pulled the sensor out. The
> plastic wire insulation was completely brittle and cracks under the
> slightest pressure/flexing.
>
> So, now what? I saw a post where Todd Salzman says that the sensor and
> temp controller come as a set... great. How much does that cost for a
> wire that apparently is being applied to an out-of-spec temperature
> condition and it undoubtedly will happen again?
>
> I saw one poster that stated he simply cut back the wiring, twisted
> and soldered the end, stuck on some heatshrink and reinserted it into
> the thermowell.... Apparently this worked fine for him... I thought
> there was a special solder you needed when making thermocouples... the
> different metals react differently to temp. Anyone else try to solder/
> repair the existing temperature sensor for the brew boiler?
>
> I've about two feet of extra wire in the original sensor.... It was
> wound up and held together with a twist tie....
>
> Come on, please respond if you have thoughts on this... I'm jonesing
> over the prospect of not having my machine running tomorrow....
>
> Tonedeef....
>
> On Nov 26, 9:15 pm, Tonedeef <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If I understand you correctly, I'm having the same issue....
> >
> > Just today I noticed that the temperature readout was only 53 degrees
> > C... Then the LED would light all the bars... flash and go crazy...
> > then 52, 53, maybe 54 degrees. It wouldn't get hot enough.... I pulled
> > a shot and checked the temp with a thermometer and sure enough....
> >
> > Found water leaking from the fitting in the back of the steam valve
> > and dripping onto the PID unit located directly below...
> >
> > Searching around, I smell burnt electrical stuff..... The black wires
> > going to a large (maybe 11/16" dia.) brass nut on the top of the brew
> > boiler (the boiler closest to the front of the machine) have the
> > insulation melted off and there's black soot around the hole in the
> > brass nut.
> >
> > I assume this is the thermostat based on my tracing of the wires back
> > to the temp readout/pid. But, the wires don't feel like they want to
> > pull out....
> >
> > I've employed brute force alot of times in my life and have found that
> > this approach doesn't work well with electronics.... Is the thermostat
> > wiring supposed to just "pull out"?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tonedeef
> >
> > On Nov 22, 5:00 am, wiseguy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > John,
> > > I need to replace the wire bulbsensor(and then replace the stat)
> > > that goes into the well on the brew boiler. Should it simply pull out
> > > of the top of well or is it somehow attached. If it just pulls out,
> > > how would you remove it if it feels stuck?
> > > Tx,
> > > Carl
> >
> > > On Nov 22, 1:55 am, John Brinkman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > BII doesn't have a PID, just has a regular thermostat.
> >
> > > > JohnB
> >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:13 AM, wiseguy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > I need to replace my pidsensor. The old one seems to be stuck in
> the
> > > > > well and won't just pull out. Any suggestions?
> > > > > Tx,
> > > > > Carl
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