Damaged during shipment. FedEx packed and FedEx shipped. Kinda-Pissed right 
now.

They used the foam, which is good. However why would you place a 65lb 
anything on top of expanding foam? The bottom of the box had like 1/4 inch 
of foam at the most. Then They dropped the box.

Bent frame, dented case, bent bottom of case. PID no longer working, bent 
front tray. GGGrrrrrrr, What the hell did they play toss the box with this 
thing?????


I did insure it but only for $1500. Would be nice to get a replacement but 
good luck finding something. :( :(



On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 11:48:50 AM UTC-5, tyrone edge wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, there's a 2012 Brewtus 4 that appears to have had 
> excellent maintenance that's going for $700 on H-B.
>
> A 2005 is a pretty old machine (unless you like working on them- in 
> which case that's different). Personally I wouldn't pay more than a few 
> hundred, but I am incredibly lazy and not mechanically inclined, so I'd 
> rather pay extra for a well maintained machine.
>
> I paid about $1100 CAD for my 2009 Brewtus 3 which has been really well 
> maintained. Maybe I overpaid slightly, but the owner was very knowledgeable 
> and took excellent care of the machine and I've had zero problems except 
> replacing the cheap Ulka pump. 
>
> If the owner is not a knowledgeable coffee head, that can spell trouble as 
> someone already mentioned. I always feel it's better to overpay slightly 
> for a well maintained machine from someone who was careful with their 
> machine.
>
> Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
>
> T
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 6:43 PM Joseph Helminiak <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Its a 2005 machine. I can fix about anything but at what point is it to 
>> much.
>>
>> I got a good deal on a machine in the past. "It barely used" well that 
>> turnned out to be "barely if EVER cleaned" Scaled and almost clogged 
>> grouphead
>>
>> Joseph (Joe) Helminiak
>> (314) 556-4488
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 5:36 PM Eric Christoffersen <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are methodical and have some 6 point wrenches the machines are 
>>> pretty easy to strip down. Take the boilers out and to a garage that 
>>> actually fixes things, maybe a suspension ship - bring some beer for their 
>>> inconvenience. Wrap each boiler in a towel and clamp softly in a vice, then 
>>> go at that hex fitting on the bottom with a big air tool and a tight 
>>> fitting impact socket. Mine were impossibly stuck and it took about 45 
>>> seconds to get the elements free, and that included some dramatic smoke as 
>>> they started to move. The removal took me about 30 minutes round trip from 
>>> my house - it is super easy if you can get access to a big air wrench, the 
>>> hammer motion is magic. Don't try to remove element using a giant breaker 
>>> bar, that would be too much torque.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 2:37:50 PM UTC-7, Joseph Helminiak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Seller is going to ask "Joe Kolb" what she should sell it for.  
>>>>
>>>> IMO from texting with her It will need a heating element and I would 
>>>> replace both of them as long as I was tearing it apart
>>>>
>>>> I really don't want to spend too much, if so I would just get a DE 
>>>> Machine. The backorder is 7 weeks on those now, SMH
>>>>
>>>> -jjh
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 2:51:12 PM UTC-5, Ira wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Joseph, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Sunday, March 8, 2020, 11:42:14 AM, you wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>> > What is a fair price for a Brewtus? 2005 model, big orange power 
>>>>> > switch.  Will trip a GFI breaker every time you plug it in. Will not 
>>>>> > trip the circuit breaker if it's not on a GFI circuit. I'm thinking 
>>>>> > one or more heating elements need to be replaced. However that 
>>>>> > requires almost a complete disassembly of the machine to take out 
>>>>> the whole boilers. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends if you can repair it yourself. I've not done it, but the 
>>>>> Brewtus is 
>>>>> pretty easy to work on and there is plenty of documentation about the 
>>>>> pieces and how it works. 
>>>>>
>>>>> In that case, I'd say $100-$300. I'd certainly pay that and repair it 
>>>>> for amusement. But make sure it works first. if you need the 
>>>>> controller or thermostat, that changes things. If need be, plug it 
>>>>> into a non GFI outlet and test that it gets hot, makes steam, the pump 
>>>>> pumps and refills the boiler. If it does all that, then it's worth it. 
>>>>>
>>>>> If it doesn't work or you need to take it to a repair shop, probably 
>>>>> worth nothing unless you have a connection to a repair tech you trust 
>>>>> to do it correctly at a fair price. The tech has probably never seen a 
>>>>> Brewtus before so they need to be competent, in my experience, not 
>>>>> that easy to find. 
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Ira 
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