UPDATE:  It's now been a full day since my first troubleshooting experiment 
(turning off the steam boiler). Oddly enough, everything is working 
properly, even with the steam boiler turned on and at full pressure/heat 
(1.3 bars). No hissing or major steam through the group head as happened 
before. When I activate the pump by raising the group lever, there's a 
typical 1-2 second delay before water flows with the tiniest wisp of steam 
at first (presumably because the group head is hot), but the water temp is 
right at the 200° F PID setting and remains there for as long as the pump 
runs. Pulling shots is completely normal. I'm relieved but cautious. I 
don't know what caused the problem, nor why it's now stopped happening. 

I did find a workaround in case I need to turn off the steam boiler. Pull a 
shot, pour 6 ounces of moo juice or cashew milk into a pitcher, add some 
coconut oil, then whip/froth that concoction with a stick blender. Add it 
to my long-pull espresso shot (4 ounces), then nuke it all in the microwave 
for 30 seconds. Voilá! A nice foamy latte. A bit inelegant perhaps, but 
quite tasty. Happily, though, I'm back in business —  at least for the 
moment — with normal milk steaming on the Brewtus. 

I'm still interested to know why/how 220° water from the steam boiler was 
coming through the group head. Should anyone here have any insights, I'm 
all ears.
On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 2:25:54 PM UTC-5 billherbst wrote:

> First troubleshooting experiment (to try to rule out possible causes of 
> the problem): This morning I turned on the Brewtus IV-r (after a night 
> where the machine was turned off), but I did NOT switch on the steam 
> boiler. I left it turned off, so that only the brew boiler would heat. 
>
> Interesting results. The Brewtus heated up the brew boiler and reached the 
> PID set temp of 199° F in about ten minutes. I removed the naked 
> portafilter and lifted the group lever to see what would happen. Brew water 
> streamed through the group head exactly as it should and appeared to be the 
> correct temperature (no hissing or steam). I pulled a shot, and everything 
> was fine. 
>
> I left the machine turned on and went back an hour later to check again. 
> Still good — brew water flowing through the group head was the correct temp 
> with no hissing or steam. To the best of my ability to apply logic, this 
> implies that the problem isn’t with the PID at all, and is instead somehow 
> tied to the steam boiler and internal plumbing. 
>
> The problem I had six months ago was caused by scale. The water in my town 
> is so hard that scale build-up had caused the solenoid-operated valve (the 
> one that's normally closed but opens when the steam boiler level sensor 
> triggers refilling) to seize in the open position. Replacing that valve and 
> de-scaling the machine fixed the problem, and I resolved to do a citric 
> acid de-scale at least once a year.
>
> Now it’s six months later, and I’m wondering if scale build-up has caused 
> a problem with the internal valves that control direction and flow of water 
> from each boiler. I still don’t understand why and how 220° water from the 
> steam boiler can be coming through the group head, but it is. Perhaps 
> someone here knows and can explain that to me.
>
> On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 4:16:23 AM UTC-5 billherbst wrote:
>
>> Well, there’s more trouble with my Brewtus IV-r. Judged by gauges, 
>> lights, and valves, everything is normal and operating as it should, but 
>> when I raise the e-61 group lever to activate the brew cycle, the water 
>> that comes through is way, way too hot. Yes, a stream of water is pumped 
>> through the group head, but it’s accompanied by loud hissing and a large 
>> volume of steam. 
>>
>>  The PID is set to 199° F, but the water coming through the group head is 
>> hotter than boiling — 220-230°. 
>>
>>  Has the PID failed? Has anyone else had this problem? 
>>
>

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