To Rob K, I just want to be certain here: 1) your problem was that the steam boiler would not refill after the machine warmed up, and 2) your replacement of the controller solved this problem. Is this correct?
My and Dunja's problem is different. The pump delays in starting after lifting the brew lever, but there has been no problem with the steam boiler refilling. Is my understanding correct? On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:11:12 PM UTC-4 Rob K wrote: > I replaced that controller when my B-II steam boiler would not refill > after the machine warmed up. When I looked at the board inside the box, > the only thing that was obvious was there was a dark spot on one of the > relays. WLL did not think that it could be the problem but everything else > in the circuit tested OK. Bad relays can do lots of things like delayed > open/close cycles. > > On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:38:33 AM UTC-5 HowardG wrote: > >> I did a little exploratory surgery and found that these was very little >> that could ascertain. I assume that what you mean by "control board" is the >> control in the photograph below. The replacement is described on the >> CafeParts website as "Level Controller 120V 50 / 60hz." See it here: >> Expobar >> Level Controller 120V 50 / 60hz - 60100106 | CafeParts.com >> <https://www.cafeparts.com/Level-Controller-120V-50-/-60hz/Product_Manu/18401/Expobar/60100106#> >> >> Short of removing and disassembling the control box, I don't think I can >> show any relays or capacitors. >> >> But I'm not even sure this is the right part because as you can see from >> the picture below the control installed in my machine has eight connectors >> in use, while the control at CafeParts shows seven connectors to be used. >> Also, the CafeParts device is labeled as "Gicar" while the below device has >> no name at all. And even if this is the correct replacement part, I'm not >> sure it would solve the issue. >> >> What do you think? >> >> [image: IMG_0448.JPG] >> >> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:24:17 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> OK. I will do that tomorrow and take some pics and post them here. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Eric Christoffersen <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> At least take a look at the control board, something burned? Relay >>> stuck? Capacitor swollen? I'd love to understand the cause of the delay. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 6:44:47 AM UTC-7 Dunja wrote: >>> >>>> This is interesting, my Brewtus is of a similar age and I also just >>>> encountered a similar problem: there is a 1-2 sec delay from the point I >>>> raise the lever to the point the pump activates (and also only at the >>>> start >>>> of the day). >>>> Thanks for the link @Murray - that might solve this issue. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Dunja >>>> >>>> On Saturday, 22 July 2023 at 17:10:09 UTC+2 Murray Roblin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Someone reported a similar issue earlier this year (?). >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/brewtus/c/ngwkLjW_54w >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 9:30:09 AM UTC-7 HowardG wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My 13-year-old Brewtus III-V has developed another issue. There is >>>>>> now an initial three-second lag between the time I raise the brew lever >>>>>> and >>>>>> when the pump activates. However, this behavior only occurs on the >>>>>> *first >>>>>> *pump actuation of a brewing session: that is, after having turned >>>>>> on the power to the machine and having allowed it to heat up. It does >>>>>> not >>>>>> happen on subsequent brew-lever actuations of the pump once the machine >>>>>> has >>>>>> come up to temp. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have also noticed that when I power on the cold machine, the pump >>>>>> often actuates immediately, presumably to add water to a boiler. There >>>>>> is >>>>>> no lag on these occasions when switching on the power. The lag only >>>>>> occurs >>>>>> on the first actuation of the pump by raising the brew lever. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas? Could it be something wrong with the brew-lever switch the >>>>>> sticks through the case and rests against a cam of the lever? Is it >>>>>> possible to get a replacement switch? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Howard Griffin >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/04d78cc3-61da-4286-ae38-9e0cdfa9adc2n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/04d78cc3-61da-4286-ae38-9e0cdfa9adc2n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/f7eeff07-052c-4466-aa28-52aca2cea692n%40googlegroups.com.
