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On Tuesday, July 8, 2025 at 11:27:28 PM UTC+1 Flo Kraus wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> After an intense troubleshooting session with my Brewtus (dual boiler), 
> I’ve reached the end of my knowledge — and I especially can’t explain the 
> behavior from a physics standpoint. So I’m relying on your help. Maybe 
> someone has an idea or can explain something to me.
>
> to put it briefly, the questions in general:
> - Shouldn't the brew and steam boilers be separated in terms of pressure? 
> Or are they actually "connected" somewhere?
> - Could someone check for me if the preassure of the brew boiler is at 
> about the same as the steam boiler (1bar).
> -  Should the expansion valve and the air relief valve remain sealed when 
> there is a pressure of 1 bar in the return line? 
>
>
>
> *Problem:*
>
>    - 
>    
>    Hot water/steam flows back into the tank via the return line
>    - 
>    
>    After a few hours, the brew boiler gradually empties — water gets 
>    refilled during extraction and it takes some time untill water reaches the 
>    group head 
>    
> This issue has been ongoing for about a year. I initially suspected a 
> leaky valve due to scale build-up. So I descaled and also disassembled and 
> cleaned the solenoid valve, expansion valve, and air relief valve.
> Today I replaced the parker solenoid valve but this doesn't stop the 
> backflow.
>
>
> *Observations:*
>
>    1. 
>    
>    The issue only occurs when the steam boiler is turned on → Only brew 
>    boiler heated: no backflow
>    2. 
>    
>    Pressure from the steam boiler transfers to the brew boiler → Steam 
>    boiler heats to 1 bar, shortly after the brew boiler also shows 1 bar
>    - 
>       
>       Note: the brew boiler is filled via a pipe that passes through the 
>       steam boiler
>       - 
>       
>       Question: Shouldn't the brew and steam boilers be separated in 
>       terms of pressure? Or are they actually "connected" via that line?
>       3. 
>    
>    Steam seems to push back from the brew boiler (filled from above) → 
>    The steam boiler (filled from below) doesn’t empty
>    4. 
>    
>    Steam escapes via the expansion valve → OPV is set to 10 bar, at just 
>    1 bar pressure it should normally remain closed
>    - 
>       
>       Question: Or is that only true for water pressure and not for steam 
>       pressure?
>       5. 
>    
>    Steam also escapes through the air relief valve toward the tank → 
>    Return line to the tank gets hot, condensation drips through the vacuum 
> hose
>    
>
> *Possible causes (only if the valves should be closed at 1 bar):*
>
>    1. 
>    
>    Expansion valve (Expobar 30400055) leaking or seal surface damaged
>    - 
>       
>       The OPV is only supposed to open above 9 bar during extraction — 
>       which it does
>       - 
>       
>       If it’s venting already at 1 bar steam, then it’s leaking (backflow 
>       possible via steam pressure)
>       2. 
>    
>    Vacuum valve leaking
>    - 
>       
>       The vacuum valve (Expobar 65000215) is supposed to open during 
>       heating, then close?!
>       - 
>       
>       If it doesn’t close, steam/water escapes continuously → backflow 
>       into tank
>       
>
> Thanks in advance for all your answers! 😊 
>

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