Hi Lennert

thanks for your quick reply.  i checked through the brctp showstp a bit and
noticed something odd (i have pasted the dump in this message).  well, looks odd
to me anyway.  (note -- green 10.2 ; yellow 10.1)  

eth0 is going out over some bridge id that isnt green or yellow. 

something tells me that is the culprit.

is there a way to correct that?  this nic is onboard.  maybe that is the problem?  

anyway, just thought that i'd throw this out as well.

i didnt see any STP data in the tcpdumps.  we arent running STP here anywhere
(not my decision to make)

thank you so much for your time and help.  i really appreciate it.

matt




green
 bridge id              8000.000103e81578
 designated root        8000.000103e81578
 root port                 0                    path cost                  0
 max age                  20.00                 bridge max age            20.00
 hello time                2.00                 bridge hello time          2.00
 forward delay            15.00                 bridge forward delay      15.00
 ageing time             300.00                 gc interval                4.00
 hello timer               0.55                 tcn timer                  0.00
 topology change timer     0.00                 gc timer                   0.55
 flags


eth2 (1)
 port id                8001                    state                   forwarding
 designated root        8000.000103e81578       path cost                100
 designated bridge      8000.000103e81578       message age timer          0.00
 designated port        8001                    forward delay timer        0.00
 designated cost           0                    hold timer                 0.55
 flags

eth3 (2)
 port id                8002                    state                   forwarding
 designated root        8000.000103e81578       path cost                100
 designated bridge      8000.000103e81578       message age timer          0.00
 designated port        8002                    forward delay timer        0.00
 designated cost           0                    hold timer                 0.55
 flags

yellow
 bridge id              8000.000103e8206c
 designated root        8000.000103e81578
 root port                 1                    path cost                110
 max age                  20.00                 bridge max age            20.00
 hello time                2.00                 bridge hello time          2.00
 forward delay            15.00                 bridge forward delay      15.00
 ageing time             300.00                 gc interval                4.00
 hello timer               0.00                 tcn timer                  0.00
 topology change timer     0.00                 gc timer                   0.92
 flags


eth0 (1)
 port id                8001                    state                   forwarding
 designated root        8000.000103e81578       path cost                100
 designated bridge      8000.0001e7356700       message age timer          1.88
 designated port        8004                    forward delay timer        0.00
 designated cost          10                    hold timer                 0.00
 flags

eth1 (2)
 port id                8002                    state                   forwarding
 designated root        8000.000103e81578       path cost                100
 designated bridge      8000.000103e8206c       message age timer          0.00
 designated port        8002                    forward delay timer        0.00
 designated cost         110                    hold timer                 0.88
 flags

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:07:95:A4:B6:D2
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:481924 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:3103 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
          RX bytes:92487461 (88.2 Mb)  TX bytes:328283 (320.5 Kb)
          Interrupt:10 Base address:0xdc00

eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:01:03:E8:20:6C
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:2827 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:481371 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
          RX bytes:317732 (310.2 Kb)  TX bytes:92409128 (88.1 Mb)
          Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd800

eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:01:03:E8:15:78
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:122447 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:28733 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> I would say that there is a loop in your network somewhere (i.e.
> the 10.1/16 and 10.2/16 subnets might not be as separate as you
> thought).  This you can try:
> 
> 1. brctl showstp br0, brctl showstp br1
>    Check whether you have ports in the 'blocking' state or
>    not.
> 
> 2. tcpdump -i br0, tcpdump -i br1 (with a recent tcpdump)
>    Check whether the spanning tree packets that you see
>    contain the same 'root' value or not.
> 
> 
>    
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 04:50:07AM +0000, Matt Critcher wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi all.
> > 
> > I have been digging through the mailing list archives and google for the past
> > couple of days looking for an answer, but have had little success.
> > 
> > here's my network setup.
> > 
> > i have a t-1, a cisco 2630 router, several hp4000M switches, and 2 VLAN
> > segments.  i need to make 2 bridges on a i386 (750 athlon, RH72, 2.4.16, latest
> > from bridge.sf.net, 3c59x).  yes, i know that there is the whole VLAN thing but
> > i am using TC so i need to break it up this way for various reasons (and my
> > problems are before i try to initiate TC).  also, because i thought that it
> > might be the router, i tried it again between 2 of these switches and same
> > results (all traffic on the vlans is untagged)
> > 
> > anyway, here is a little pic (sorry if it looks distored) to help explain.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >                        |---10.2/16--|  eth0,eth1   |-----
> > ---WAN-----ROUTER------|            |  bridge box  |     | hp4000M switch(vlans)
> >                        |---10.1/16--|  eth2,eth3   |-----
> > 
> > 
> > i set up the bridges this way
> > 
> > brctl addbr br0
> > ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up
> > ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 up
> > brctl addif br0 eth0
> > brctl addif br0 eth1
> > ifconfig br0 0.0.0.0 up
> > 
> > brctl addbr br1
> > ifconfig eth2 0.0.0.0 up
> > ifconfig eth3 0.0.0.0 up
> > brctl addif br1 eth2
> > brctl addif br1 eth3
> > ifconfig br1 0.0.0.0 up
> > 
> > i have also tried this without the 0.0.0.0 (just ifconfig eth/br up), and with
> > stp off.  i have tried with addresses on the bridges and ethX. 
> > 
> > the problem is that no matter how i shuffle it around, the bridge created on
> > 10.2/16 only works if the bridge on 10.1/16 is down.  it doesnt matter which i
> > make br0 or which i add first.  if i bring up the bridge on 10.1, it just dont
> > work.  tcpdump -i on 10.1 shows all the normal traffic.  same thing on 10.2
> > shows only arp and netbios-datagrams.
> > 
> > this is really weird.  i have replaced the nics thinking that one could be bad.
> >  i have made sure that each nic is on its irq, and have replaced the network
> > cables with new, store-bought ones.
> > 
> > i'm stumped.  as i mentioned before, tc or iptables is not bound to anything. 
> > this is just straight-out-of-the-box bridging. 
> > 
> > anyone out there had a simular problem?  any advice?  
> > 
> > i really appreciate your help.
> > 
> > thanks!!
> > 
> > matt
> > 
> > 
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