On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Richard Baker wrote:

> Brad said:
> 
> > I thought that the consensus on the Culture list was that _Player of 
> > Games_ was the best first Iain M. Banks book to read, with _Consider 
> > Phlebas_ a close second.
> 
> I read _Player of Games_ first and thought it was a good introduction to
> the Culture universe as well as an excellent sf novel. In retrospect,
> however, I think that I'd rather have read _Consider Phlebas_ because
> that novel probably loses some of its effect when the reader knows too
> much about the Culture.

True, but I'd argue that much of that impact is lost just by knowing that
the books are, as a whole, known as the Culture books.  The exact nature
of the way in which that advice is given usually ends up spoilering the 
point of reading it first, as well.

_Consider Phlebas_ is also a much weaker novel.  (I read it first, and nearly
didn't continue with the rest; I like it better now, but the first time
through it didn't do much for me.)  

> > _Use of Weapons_ should not be read by the underage or
> > the psychologically sensitive...
> 
> Whilst _Use of Weapons_ was certainly surprising I didn't think it was
> *that* shocking. It's far and away my favourite of the Culture novels to
> date, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone. But perhaps
> that's just evidence that I'm Evil...

After reading _The Wasp Factory_, _Use of Weapons_ seems very tame indeed.

I don't know if it's my favorite.  It's widely regarded as the best-written, 
but I *liked* _Player of Games_ much more.  To be fair, I haven't re-read
UoW, and I have reread PoG, so I'm not comparing them on quite fair grounds.

(Have you read _Look to Windward_?)  

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Andrea Leistra                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ROU Doomsday Marshmallows


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