Perhaps you could add the _ultracrepidors_ to the list of Alliances.......
(Man, I've been dying to use that word in a message ---hehehehe...)

I'll let you add the description of the _Ultracrepidors_ in the group...
(You can include me in the roll for this Ideological class ) in the style
you do pretty dang good....

Nerd From Hell

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Grimaldi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 3:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Uplift vs. Culture
> 
> 
> I've been kicking this idea around for a while, and with
> all the Culture ship names that have been appearing here
> lately, I figured the time is right :-)
> 
> -- Matt Grimaldi
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Major Brin-L Ideological Alliances
> 
> ( Adapted from Trent Shipley's "Alliance for Progress 
> Encyclopedia", found at: 
> http://www.u.arizona.edu/~tshipley/Encyclopedia/index.html )
> 
> 
> 
> Abdicators: 
> 
> Anglic term used to describe a quasi-religious Brin-L grouping that 
> believes in the existence of ancient ethereal members that 
> occasionally take physical form and undergo regular subscription 
> procedures, without ever revealing their true nature.  It is 
> thought that these members --known as Great Ghosts-- intervene
> during Brin-L emergencies, with the Brin being the eldest, most 
> aloof, and powerful of them.  This belief system dates back to 
> the time of Eythain Lazh, more than 60 million seconds ago.
> 
> In other words, the Great Ghosts might be posting under assumed
> names...
>   
> 
> 
> Awaiters:
> 
> Superficially similar to the Inheritors, the Awaiters think 
> that Brin will one day return bringing wisdom and justice 
> back to Brin-L.
> 
> 
> 
> Inheritors:
> 
> Believe that when Brin returns they will be chosen to rid 
> Brin-L of all unworthy posters.  Members of this "alliance" 
> not infrequently tend toward social Darwinism or xenophobia.
> Others are retiring, largely non-violent, survivalists. 
> 
> Inheritors are not noted for cooperation among themselves,
> and "alliance" is something of a misnomer. 
>   
> 
> 
> Obeyers:
> 
> The Obeyers have often met the Abdicator Alliance  in 
> ritual battle.  Abdicator and Obeyer doctrines are quite
> similar, and both are rooted in the Tarseuh Alliance.
> 
> The essential difference seems to be that Obeyers believe 
> not only in the principle of "abdication," but also insist 
> that the Traditions of the Great Ghosts must be rigorously
> (and usually rigidly) followed.  A plurality of Obeyers believe
> that when a Great Ghost "incarnates" as a listmember (like the 
> Goddess), the wicked (non-Obeyer members, especially Abdicators)
> will be scourged, and the righteous (the True Obeyer members)
> will inherit the listserver for the next mega-cycle.  Many Obeyer
> members who hold this doctrine of "redemption" have developed
> puritanical and exclusive ethical systems that converge with
> those of many Inheritors.
> 
> Both Obeyers and Abdicators see the other "alliance" as corrupting
> the memory of the Great Ghosts, hence the periodic warfare between
> these two groups. 
> 
> 
> 
> Transcendor (also known as Affirmer): 
> 
> This group believes that posts evolved naturally early in the
> history of the Listserver.  However, this happened once, or at 
> most a handful of times.  ALL subsequent (on-topic) posts have 
> resulted from the infinitely more productive procedures of topic
> drift.  Consequently, almost all members of this "alliance" see 
> new-listmember claims to new topic creation  as either egregious 
> arrogance or pitiable superstition, or (most frequently) both.
> The most charitable members of this group regard the new-listmember
> self- (or spontaneous-) topic creation story as "most improbable 
> indeed." 
> 
> Transcendors (as a rule) believe that self-improvement and 
> self-enlightenment are the meaning of life, both on a Brin-L and 
> civilizational level.
> 
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