"Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stanley Hoffmann defined a totalitarian
> government as one that rules through the application of terror 
across
> an entire population, and we generally came to the conclusion that
> Hitler's government was totalitarian only for a relatively short
> period of time in 1944 after the assasination attempt against him.

But the thing is, how do you define application of terror? Open 
threat? Implied threat? There's a great article in this book I read 
called _The China Reader: The Reform Era_ that discussed how, even 
when overt massive threat was removed in China at points, such as 
since Tianenmen, self-censorship was internalized by most people, and 
made essential to Chinese identity ("Am I really a good Chinese, if I 
question?"). Of course, I haven't experienced the culture or the 
period, so I could be wrong in believing it, but it certainly has 
analogues to the way people behaved in Europe in the Middle 
Ages . . . even in some of the biggest outbursts, there were elements 
of strong self-censorship and self-restraint to be observed. This can 
certainly go some way to producing the image of popular support for a 
regime, when, if you look at other places in which people sometimes express 
dissent covertly (say, the arts, or 
the way people discuss religion or technology or other things besides 
government, while also cryptically criticising the 
government) you see the picture isn't really that simple. 

> The average German citizen had little to fear from the SS as long as
> he or she was not Jewish and did not engage in active resistance to
> the government... 

Which sounds a lot like what I said above. As long as you have no reason to 
fear being labeled "Troublesome", you have nothing to fear. But who can safely 
say that they have no fear that? I'd imagine there's probably room for 
ambiguity there.

But I am curious about how we came to see Nazi Germany as so secret-
police-ridden that, when I was a little kid in the seventies and 
early 80s, KGB and Gestapo were interchangeable words, and that even 
now, most depictions of Germany that I've seen play that card of 
paranoia, using everything from all out Gestapo to things like Hitler 
Youth informing on their parents. Any source that covers the 
possibility that a lot of this "gestapo" stuff is actually a 
reflection of the KGB via popular assumptions would  be really 
appreciated. Thanks!
Gord

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