On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 12:28:22AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote:
> At 06:33 PM 1/28/01 -0600, Erik wrote:
> >On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 02:29:05PM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote:
> >> At 10:24 AM 1/28/01 -0600, Erik wrote:
> >> >Depending on how they calculated, I suppose that could be. But to be
> >> >fair, they should really take into account the big tax break they
> >> >get for the property, assuming they got a loan to buy it. Which likely
> >> >offsets most or all of the property taxes.
> >> 
> >> Which means that if they had found a non-home-owning couple of the same
> >> income, they would pay even more of their income in taxes!!!!!!!   Is that
> >> *amazing* or what?   This family is working two jobs to make ends meet, and
> >> they are paying *half* of their income to the governments.   Whew!
> >
> >Huh? Non home-owners don't pay property tax.
> 
> You missed it.

What 'it' did I miss?

> I was talking about two different families.   My new hypothetical family
> would not have a mortage payment tax-write-off, and thus would be paying
> even more taxes than the Missouri couple featured.  

But they wouldn't be paying property tax either. Lose a tax write off
and lose a tax. Without detailed accounting, your statement that they
pay more is not credible.

> Also, the 46% is all-tax-inclusive - income, property, sales, electricity,
> gas, water, phone, etc.

I still don't believe the 46% number. All those other taxes you mentioned
are fairly small, and will be mostly offset in my calculation by the
things that I left out or overestimated.

If you sample American taxpayers on this list, and neglect college
students, I think you will find that the income level and therefore
the tax rate of people on this list is much higher than average. Even
so, I would be very surprised if anyone on here can give us a detailed
accounting and show that they pay 46% of their income in taxes. Anyone?


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"Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       http://www.erikreuter.com/

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