This message is a response to me from Kat. I am posting it, per her
specific request, as she wanted to be sure that the record was set straight
on why she left.
Please consider sending follow-ups to her personal e-mail.
JDG
>Subject: RE: Let Them Eat GNP! Re: *DO* we share a civilization?
>Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:03:52 +1200
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>From: "K.Feete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Brin Listserve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>John D. Giorgis wrote:
>
>>At 01:12 PM 7/31/01 +1200, K.Feete wrote:
>>>Thanks for making a hard decision much easier. JDG I can deal with and
>>>even on occasion enjoy fencing with:
>>
>>Aw gee...... *thanks.* :-)
>
>Not terribly flattering, I guess, but true. <grin>
>>
>>>Feel free to respond to me off-list if you feel I'm being unfair. But
>>>don't expect any reply to what you post on-list. I won't see it.
>>>
>>>Well, it's been a good four years, guys. Somebody drop me a line if the
>>>list ever lends itself to actual debate again.
>>
>>What I don't understand is how one can equate "one person" with "the List."
>> Unfortunately, that seems to have become increasingly common as of late.
>>If you don't like one person's particular style, filter their messages.
>>Even *I* have done that from time to time when there have been posters I
>>did not feel like dealing with. To me, leaving the List because of one
>>person seems silly. Even if there is someone you can't deal with - this
>>List still has the occasional update from DB, the erratic Glory Season
>>discussion (I know, I know.... :), and so many other people engaging in
>>productive civlized discussion.
>>
>>This List was *meant* to be diverse. With that great diversity, there is
>>necessarily going to be styles that grate on you from time to time.
>>That's diverse discussion. I just wonder how so many people can join, and
>>then claim to leave because there is an "Otherness" that they just can't
>>tolerate any more, and throw away so many good things with the few bad
>>experiences.
>
>Hah. Rereading my message, I guess that is what it sounds like- a sign of
>"why Kat should let messages sit for a bit before sending." In fact Dean
>was more like the straw that broke the camel's back. Let me try again,
>and be more clear.
>
>I'm not leaving the list because of Dean. There's usually at least one of
>him who shows up every year, and generally they mellow out or go away
>within a few months. But, to be quite honest, I've been discouraged with
>the list for some time. People seem less interested in diversity and
>discussion than they are in proving somebody else wrong. Time and time
>again over the past few months I have seen thoughtful posts that I really
>wanted responses on ignored by all but one or two while some offhand,
>joking comment is met by so many vicious emails attacking my objectivity,
>lack of knowledge base, patriotism, et cetera ad naseum that I can't even
>begin to respond to them all. And I found this rather depressing.
>
>I know the list has always been a bit of a free-for-all; but maybe I'm
>just remembering wrong when I think that it wasn't so ego-driven and
>merciless only a year or so ago. Maybe I've just changed, and am
>indulging in selective memory when I think that we used to stop at first
>blood when I originally joined. At any rate, it doesn't really matter.
>
>Dean was, for me, the last strike- less because of what he said, which as
>I mentioned has been said and done before, but because, scanning my
>email, I saw only one reply condemning him for it.
>
>That's not right. We should be more of a community than that.
>
><shrug> I hope that clears things up a bit. I see you've posted this to
>the list as well; don't think this will go through since I'm unsubbed,
>but feel free to repost it if you like. Take care, JDG, and thanks for
>all the fun fencing practice. <grin>
>
>Kat Feete
>
>
>
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>No honey for me, if it comes with a bee.
> --Sappho
>
>
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John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ #3527685
We are products of the same history, reaching from Jerusalem and
Athens to Warsaw and Washington. We share more than an alliance.
We share a civilization. - George W. Bush, Warsaw, 06/15/01
