Grrrrr, I am not good with philosophy, psychology or logic- but I know enough to remember one of those simple lessons- "If you aint got nothing nice to say don't say anything at all". OK, so that sounds a bit mothering and I have no experience in the area (that won't stop me though). I have been through enough to understand the adult-parent-child model of interaction, and seeing things get childish just pushed my "mother" reaction. This landmine debate has been like watching half a good argument, and half a bit of high schoolers trying to rationalize their point of view. I really thought this would blow over or get a little less caustic. I am having trouble seeing this as "debate" even at this point though, I certainly don't see people valuing or respecting each member of this group for their opinion. As much as I have thought some of this was youthful power struggle/king of the hill crap, I have never put Zim's life expereience/ life tuition as something to be escorted out the door (and it has saddened me to see anyone treated as though they were expendable for not being willing to partake in some sort of warped highlanderic darwinism of bickering). So what does this have to do with roses? Well, when I was a kid and we had a chore list someone always had to pick up the dog "roses" up off the lawn and make sure they got to the garbage...... Dee <going back to adult mode> > > > I will be out of town for the next few days during which time I will > > will strongly consider unsubscribing to the list. > > I'm usually a nice guy, who has no problem lending people a helping hand. I > will not make an exception for you, but lend you a helping hand too: > > "To unsubscribe, send a message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, with the text > 'unsubscribe brin-l' (without the quotes) in the body. Do NOT send it to the > list." > > > > Another casualty of political and ethical absoluteism. > > I pointed out to you that you can't go about accusing people of something > without providing ample evidence (saying "I distinctly remember" won't hold > up in court), and that such behaviour might get you into legal trouble. How > does that make you "another casualty of political and ethical absolutism"? > If there is one casualty here, it's ethics itself. > > If I didn't know better, I'd feel sorry for you. > > Bye. > > > Jeroen >
