In a message dated 01-09-03 18:35:01 EDT, you write:

> 
>  > 
>  >  Oh, and speaking of Adams coincidences, John Adams and 
>  >  Thomas Jefferson were often at great odds early in the 
>  >  country's history, but later in life they became fast 
>  >  friends and corresponded regularly.  The two great patriots 
>  >  died within hours of each other on July 4th, 1826, 50 years 
>  >  _to the day_ after the Declaration of Independence.
>  >  
>  >  -- 
>  >  Doug
>  
>  Help me out here Doug (with something not too long).  During the times
>  I have been to Jefferson Monument for the tours the Park Rangers have
>  always mentioned they were far from friends even in dying. I can never
>  recall the order of it, but one of them got pissed that he was dying before
>  the other, but in reality the other had just died.  
>  
>  Dee

PS to my own post
It seems they are not giving FDR tours in depth like when it opened, so bring
a CD player and get the CD.  I haven't listed, but got it for a friend since 
I can
still hear much of the tone in my brain from the first time I went.  

And John and whoever else is in the DC area, please get your feet wet in the 
"last" room at a minimum.  The park rangers now do not encourage it, but
the monument was meant to be touched/felt and "experienced" especially
this way since so much of FDR was associated with water.  I asked the
last time I was there and they admitted they frown, but wont cart you off,
for foot dipping/rock climbing within reason- so I do it every chance I get
just as my pathetic little bit of "civil needling".  (The biggest worry they 
do note is the purification system not being able to stand up to the throng
of summer visitors)

Dee
The faulknerish stream of consciousness DC babbler
  

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