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> Me?  You think I should feel ashamed?  At this moment in our history, when
> thousands of our fellow citizens lie murdered and you choose to talk about
> _our_ responsibility for what happened, you say _I_ should be
> ashamed?

You should be ashamed that you have a college education, clearly can read,
yet cannot see the words before your eyes.  Below, I repeat what I wrote,
which you continue to misquote, misunderstand and misuse.  This time, try to
*see* what I said we have responsibility for, which is not the terrorist
attacks:

That's the sort of self-righteousness that will perpetuate hate and
violence, in my opinion.  We should not be afraid to look at ourselves, to
take some responsibility for the relationship we have with those who did
this terrible thing.  Not that we should not hold them accountable; however,
taking the attitude that "we have done nothing wrong" is poison to any
relationship, personal or global.  We have done nothing to deserve or
justify this, without doubt, but let's not be afraid to take *some*
responsibility for the international relations in which this occurred.

If you refuse to see the difference between taking responsibility for the
relationship and taking responsibility for the action, then you will still
be behaving shamefully.

Perhaps someone else on the list can explain this better? John Donne said it
pretty well -- "No man is an island... ask not for whom the bell tolls, it
tolls for thee."  No nation is an island, either.

Nick

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