On Tuesday 25 September 2001 21:55, you wrote:
> Trent wrote
> <<I still haven't heard how the Israeli nationalists on this list intend to
> solve their Palestinian problem.>>
> Voluntary transfer. Palestinians are given two choices - either to accept
> payment and to leave or to become full Israeli citizens (including doing
> army service and paying taxes)
I) That is (aghem) "Voluntary Transfer."
-- It is of course possible to extend citizenship to people whether they like
it or not.
-- It is possible to draft people into millitary service whether they like it
or not.
-- It is undesirable to actually pay for what can be taken.
-- It is quite desirable to go through the motions of paying for what can be
taken, as in the inequitable treaties the USA imposed on inconvienient
American Indian Nations (that is all of them).
You should make very certain to assess property values at pennies on the
dollar, especially since the USA will probably bear the brunt of any
financial expenses for the "Just Monetary Compensation Voluntary Transferees"
All-in-all the "voluntary transfer" idea sounds excellent to me. It has just
enough versimillitude of
However, I would also require those who stay to *convert*. These will be
shame conversions, of course. However, over time the resulting
crypto-Christians and crypto-Muslims will "forget" their original heritage
and become devout Jews (albeit with unusual ritual forms and communal
customs) and patriotic Israelis.
Moreover, even fewer will accept citizenship under those terms, so more will
(_cough_) "voluntarally transfer" themselves. This will lessen the
likelyhood that there will be demographic causes for a second round of
"voluntary transfers".
> I'll prefer that it would be accompanied
> (sp) by Arab countries paying compensations to Jews whose households were
> confiscated, but I am realistic. <SHRUG>
> <<We all agree that almost all Palestinians have a rabid hatred of
> Israelis/Zionists (This is perfectly understandable. If I were a
> Palestinian I would consider all Zionists mortal enemies). And most of
> them have an almost deranged hatred of Jews.>>
> And our previous Prime Minister said that he was a Palestinian, he would
> have joined Hamas. <SHRUG> If you were right I would have been dead long
> time ago. Most Palestinians afraid of terrorist groups much more than they
> hate Israel.
My experience with Arabs is that they are very suspicious and *moderately*
fearful of any authority. Furthermore, Palestinians are still a pretty
worldly bunch for Arabs.
Even so, the Israel problem is the immediate crisis for
Palestinans. Most *won't* join Hammas, but that's because they disagree
with its politics. My experience is indeed that *most* Palestinians hate
Jews and *all* regard Zionists as their enemy.
In short, irrational hatered of Jews is not necessarilly murderous.
It would not necessarilly result in erratic behavior.
And I am very sceptical that:
"Most Palestinians afraid of terrorist groups much more than they
hate Israel."
is even an approximately accurate statement.
