> Behalf Of William T Goodall

> I got around to seeing LOTR on Thursday. I had quite high
> expectations, and
> it exceeded them.

Agree thoroughly with this: as one of the reviews in Rottentomatoes.com
starts off "You thought Harry Potter had expectations?"

 Right at the start when the (small) Frodo leaps onto
> the (large)
> Gandalf's wagon and it was pretty much flawless, I felt I didn't need to
> worry...

There were a couple of snippets later where the hobbits seemed to be using
children as standins, but otherwise it was handled really well throughout.

The film has streamlined some of the clunkier parts of the book -
intercutting Gandalf/Saruman into the film narrative instead of it being
dealt with in hindsight was a big step forward for the film. Unlike Harry
Potter, the film is structured differently, as a film, and is much much
better for it.

Sorry Alberto, but I still can't see much use for Tom Bombadil. Of the 3 or
4 times I've read LOTR, I've skimmed that section at best every reading
after that first time.


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One major change I really like is Xenarwen. (Jo Anne, how does your Arwen
feel about having Liv Tyler portray her? Have you made her her sword yet?)
Anyway, by combining Glorfindel and Arwen a much stronger character is
created, one that helps drive the film onwards. Tolkien has far too many
characters in far too many similar situations, and the film has been brave
enough to tidy some of them up. Besides, she looks bloody fantastic on the
horse.

And the romance between Aragorn and Arwen is far better treated as in the
film: Tolkien didn't really write any proper female roles - apart maybe from
Eowyn, and she was pretty much an hysterical schoolgirl - and the book's
Aragorn/Arwen romance is treated as a barest afterthought after all the
bloke stuff has been done. It's never felt right for me.

At a guess, I hope Xenarwen replaces the two sons of Elrond who rated the
occasional mention in vols II and III. If so, it should be interesting come
Eowyn's pining for Aragorn.

Saruman's uruk-hai were pretty damn impressive, although the squad leader
who knew about the ring (Ugluk?) seems already to have been knocked off.
Still, I was really surprised at how the uruk-hai carried the white hand
mark of Saruman; as a painted hand on their head or body. Thought that was a
really good touch, even if it brought back memories of the cannibal tribes
in the "serial" that was part of the Banana Splits ( Oh, oh, Bongo??).

Another change, one I think the Brin would appreciate, is how the elves are
shown. Elrond and, particularly, Galadriel are clearly not all sweetness and
light. I pretty much agree with the Brin's take on how the elves take
themselves as a superior race and do not pass on the knowledge they have to
the lower classes. After all, there was practically zero progress evident
from the first Last Battle where Isildur took the ring to the time of Frodo
and the Fellowship.

Tolkien's elves are patrician Imperialists, written by a son of the Empire
(Tolkien was born in what became Rhodesia, nowadays Zimbabwe), Peter
Jackson's are altogether darker. The Kiwis are not nearly as Brit-sceptical
as Australians, but to this little digger, some of the Empire's flaws can be
glimpsed in their film portrayal. Possibly helped a bit by having Aussies
portray the two elf leaders - Elrond and Galadriel - and an American for
Arwen.



> My other biggest pain was the death of Boromir - very close to
> Monty Python that  was.

There were a couple of snorts from the group behind me directed at Boromir's
demise. I agree it skirted Python territory, but Tolkien had Boromir become
a pin cushion while defending Pippin and Merry. And don't forget, on
Weathertop Aragorn had largely defeated 5 ringwraiths single-handed (book
and film) and had again taken on and beaten a platoon of orcs to let Frodo
head for the canoe (film). Obviously the (Bruce) Willis effect works with
swords as well as it does with Uzis - the hero can kill many, while the
forces of darkness couldn't skewer a barn door between them.

Anyway, none of the arrows seemed to hit an instantly fatal part of the
body. Bob Zim can probably give us a considered medical opinion, but one
arrow high on the left shoulder and two more pretty low down (below
diaphragm?) seem about equivalently fatal as, say, bayonet wounds - which
frequently left a soldier screaming for hours before dying. Sometimes I
think we are too conditioned to expect instant and painfree death in battle,
whereas it is the bleeding and infection that have always been the real
killers. And many, many men have been killed by an enemy that has not yet
died from their sword/bayonet/bullet wounds.

And did you see how one of the orcs moves as Aragorn goes to aid the dying
Boromir?

>He gets up and fights on after taking a fatal arrow. And then
> after a second fatal arrow. And *then* a third!  Like that knight
> in MP and
> the Holy Grail after being cut to bits! Just die!
>
> But it still utterly demolishes all of Star Wars etc.
>

I hope they make their squillions pretty quickly - already it seems that
LOTR has made nearly half the production cost of the COMBINED 3 films, so
maybe they'll take pity on us all and release the Two Towers around
June/July. I gather, from a couple of interviews with Peter Jackson, that
the second film is basically complete already.

Cheers,

Brett

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