----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Bible translations Re: Tragedy in Israel
> > Ronn Blankenship wrote: > > > >Those which are often called the Apocrypha. The Catholics consider them > >canonical, the Protestants don't. > > > No!!! > > They are called _deutero-canonical_, because they are canonical by > 2nd order. They weren't considered canonical by the Jews, and they > were incorporated into the Christian canon around 1500 AD > > Alberto Monteiro If that is true, then why are they in the Eastern Orthadox cannon as well as the Catholic cannon? The formation of the cannon is a very interesting process. As my scripture professor at St. Mary's seminary pointed out, there were small variations in the cannon between churches that were fully in the communion of the church up until at least 1000. But, the general form was there and the cannon of the Catholic church is very close to that of the various Eastern Orthadox churches (the main difference is the 151st psalm.(BTW, my prof was a Russian Orthadox priest). However, there was general agreement, following Agustine's lead up until the Westminster confession took those books out. Indeed, you can see that Luther included those books in his commentary on all of scriptures. One bit of experimental evidence that supports this is the Vulgate http://kuhttp.cc.ukans.edu/carrie/stacks/vulgate_main.html includes these books. It is true that the Jewish scriptures do not include these books. However, that is a complicated issue. They did at the time of Jesus...one can see the Septuagent... http://www.ccel.org/bible/brenton/intro.html which is oft quoted in the Christian scriptures and, as the reference shows, has been quoted by Jewish sources at the time. But, after the fall of Jerusalem, the cannon was reformulated with the Greek books being expunged. Also, one sees works in LXX that are in neither the Jewish or the Christian cannons. Plus, one sees quotes of non-cannonical works as cannon in the New Testiment (this is clearest in the quote of Enoc by Jude). So, the establishment of the cannon was really an interesting prospect, and the idea that the reformed churches use the bible of the Apostles is really not well based. Dan M.
