At 10:26 AM 1/3/02, Sonja wrote:
>Erik Reuter schreef:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:12:29PM +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
> > > That system would prabably not work well over here. Now a days on some
> > > channels they skip _any_ form of separation between CB and movie.



Something that torques me off is what they have been doing for a couple of 
years or so:  reducing the credits to a narrow column on the side of the 
screen while playing commercials on the rest of the screen.  Not only is 
the type in the column  so small as to be completely unreadable, but 
frequently they also do a fast roll, so though they technically showed 
everybody's name that they legally have to, there's no way anyone can read 
them.  Sometimes not even if you tape it and play it back at a slow speed.



> > Are you sure? For NTSC, I think that a frame is 1/60 of a sec and a
> > field is 1/30 of a sec (NTSC is interlaced). It is hard to tell if a
> > single blank field is there or not.
> >
> > I'm not sure what it is for PAL, but probably about the same.



I'm not either.  Though it couldn't be much shorter, or the picture would 
flicker.



>Well the blank could of course be there. I didn't realise that they can manage
>1/60 of a sec. So that is a possibillity.



Does your current VCR have frame-by-frame capability?  (One of mine, the 
then-top-of-the-line Sony, does.)  If so, you could take a tape of a movie 
that seemed to you not to have any break between the program and the 
commercial, run it to just before the break, then step through 
frame-by-frame to see if there were any black frames in between.



>With some movies there were instances were we were totally confused about the
>continuity in a scene, only to realise a few seconds later that we were 
>looking
>at commercials instead of movie.



Yeah.  And what's even worse is when the commercial makes more sense than 
the movie it interrupted . . . ;-)



>Passage from one to the other looked
>absolutely seameless.
>
>I'm not sure if a signal for begin and end of commercials is provided, but
>(considering the stupidity of most commercials) it would be absolutely devine
>to kill all of them at the touch of a button. :o)



Which of course is the reason they would make such a signal as undetectable 
as possible or eliminate it altogether.

Remember:  the only reason they make the program at all is to entice you to 
see the commercials.



>Time for a new video recorder perhaps. I'm sure a retailer can tell us what
>system would work... Even though, I'm not sure that such systems are currently
>available in the EU. I seem to remember something about a story where
>videorecorders (with abillity to recognise commercials) had to be taken 
>off the
>EU market after a court case by RTL (major commercial station with 
>reception in
>all of the EU) or somesuch.



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