At 08:35 6-1-02 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote: >International delegates *and* Dr. Barghouti attacked border police on at the >checkpoint. Soldiers used force. May be excessive, but not according to the >tape I saw on Russian TV6 channel. There are several wounded soldiers. >(Stones make nasty wounds, they can also kill). Soldiers (border police is >army branch) did not fire their weapons.
I did not see that footage, but I find your explanation hard to believe. Why would international delegates and dr. Barghouti attack the border police? First, they (the delegates and dr. Barghouti) were probably not armed, so there was no way they could win a fight against an armed opponent. Second, it would be detrimental to their cause. Third, Amnesty International apparently supports them, but AI does not support people who have used violence. >Article ><< "Dr Mustafa Barghouti, who has a world-wide reputation, has been >released. However, he is not the first human rights activist to be >ill-treated and arrested -- others remain under administrative detention >orders which allow indefinite detention without charge or trial," added the >organization. Nevertheless, it goes against democratic principles (not to mention human rights) to keep someone detained (even if that means "do not leave town") without charge and trial. >These include >Abed al-Rahman al-Ahmar, a fieldworker for the Palestinian >Human Rights Monitoring Group, who was arrested in Jerusalem in May 2001 >because he had no pass, and Daoud al-Dar'awi, a staff member of the >Palestinian Independent Commission for Citizens' Rights, arrested in >September 2001, who was placed under administrative detention in October >immediately after a judge ordered his release on bail. >> > >Ilana >"administrative detention in *this* context meaning they are restricted to >their home cities. The fact that Daoud al-Dar'awi was placed under "administrative detention" right after a judge ordered his release, does have a very unpleasant smell to it. >Article ><<Abed al-Rahman al-Ahmar said he was beaten after arrest and both were >reportedly subjected to prolonged sleep deprivation in painful positions >under interrogation.>> > >Ilana >False. Our High Court of Justice prohibited such treatment of prisoners, >even when there are reasons to suspect that it can prevent terrorist act and >there are people who are checking it. The fact that it is *prohibited* does not mean it will not *happen*. ><<re than 700 Palestinians -- including more than 160 children -- have been >killed by Israeli security forces since October 2000. Most of these were >unlawful killings, yet only the killings of 13 Palestinians with Israeli >citizenship in September and October 2000 are being properly >investigated.>> > >Ilana >*All* killings, every bullet are investigated. Then how come that Amnesty International does not know about it? If they know that certain cases are investigated, it seems reasonable to assume that they would know if other cases were investigated. >Article ><<The failure to hold proper investigations into every killing has created >an atmosphere where nervous or reckless members of the security forces kill >or injure Palestinians with impunity," Amnesty International added.>> > >Ilana >As I said before - false. On what do you base that statement? The Israeli regime says it is false, therefore it *is* false? Personally, I have more faith in an independent organisation like Amnesty International than in the Israeli regime. Jeroen _________________________________________________________________________ Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com Tom's Photo Gallery: http://tom.vanbaardwijk.com
