In a message dated 1/16/02 1:39:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< > Btw, has the international Red Cross/Crescent organization ever explained
> why it won't accept the israeli Red Magen-David?

Can you explain what you're talking about? I'm not familiar with that. >>

Rather than explain, here is some information on the subject: 
1) From Israel's gov't site. 
2) From the US senate (Hillary Clinton's release on the subject last year)
3) from Chicago's Red Cross

They've been discussing it for years.  The very short version is, unless 
Israel removes the Jewish Star from their ambulances, they will not be given 
international recognition and immunity from being fired upon by enemy forces 
the way the Red Cross is.  

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Isn't it wonderful to be a member of a civilization?  
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From: 
http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH01v80

 Israel and the International Red Cross
 
        Israel, as a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, is a member of the 
International Red Cross. Its first-aid organization, "Magen David Adom", is 
represented by the red Star of David ("Magen David"). However, due to 
Israel's insistance on retaining its unique symbol, its status in the 
International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies has remained 
that of observer only. (The Geneva Conventions currently recognize only two 
symbols: the Red Cross and the Red Crescent.)

Israel fully complies with the ten conditions for recognition of national 
societies, with the exception of paragraph 5: the requirement to use the name 
and symbol of the Red Cross or Red Crescent. Israel's efforts to obtain 
recognition for the symbol of "Magen David Adom" has continued throughout the 
years, since 1949.

At the IRC meeting held in Birmingham, England in October 1993, an Advisory 
Committee was established to review the organizational and statutory 
timeliness of the organization, including its symbols. A meeting of the Red 
Cross societies will be held at the end of November 1997. The societies will 
recommend to the International Conference (scheduled to convene at the end of 
1999) several solutions to the problem of the symbol, among them the adoption 
of a uniform symbol (red diamond), within which the individual national 
societies can include particular national symbols. This solution is in 
principle acceptable to Israel.

In the meantime, "Magen David Adom" continues to maintain good de facto 
working relations with the Swiss ICR and its representative in Israel, as 
well as with the International Committee of the Red Cross in Geneva.

FROM: 
http://clinton.senate.gov/news/2001/03/2001312D01.html
March 12, 2001 

Senator Clinton Calls for Inclusion of
Israel in International Red Cross

Washington, DC – Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton today vowed to fight for the 
inclusion of Magen David Adom, Israel's humanitarian aid society, as a full 
voting member in the International Red Cross. Senator Clinton made the 
promise during an address to the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism's 
(RAC) 2001 Consultation on Conscience conference. The biannual event was 
hosted by RAC at the Grand Hyatt in Washington.

"The decision of the International Red Cross to deny membership to Israel's 
society is an issue of social justice that has put Israel at a disadvantage 
and has sent a strong, unfortunate message to the world suggesting that 
Israel should be treated as a second-class nation," said Senator Clinton. "I 
recently met with Senator Fitzgerald and we have discussed what we can to 
together in the near future. And today, I am proud to say that I will join 
Senator Fitzgerald in sending a letter calling on the Bush Administration to 
make Israel's inclusion in the International Committee of the Red Cross a 
high priority."

For more than 50 years, Magen David Adom (MDA), Israel's equivalent of the 
Red Cross, has been excluded from becoming a member of the International 
Committee of the Red Cross simply because MDA uses the red star of David as 
its emblem, rather than the red cross. In the Muslim world, countries are 
welcome to use the red crescent as their symbol. Israel's MDA is on call 24 
hours a day, providing humanitarian relief at home and around the world, but 
is still not permitted to join this International humanitarian body. 

The American Red Cross has worked to eliminate the longstanding obstacles to 
MDA's membership. In October 2000, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a 
resolution sponsored by Senator Peter Fitzgerald (IL) and others calling for 
the International Committee of the Red Cross and Federation to immediately 
grant MDA full voting membership. That followed a similar bipartisan 
resolution sponsored Congressman Engel and passed by the House of 
Representatives in May of last year. 

FROM: http://chapters.redcross.org/il/chicago/services/international/MDA.htm

American Red Cross Works For Recognition of Israel's  
Magen David Adom
Exclusion of the Magen David Adom (MDA - a.k.a. the Red Cross in Israel) from 
full membership in the International Red Cross and Red Crescent has been a 
long-standing point of contention between the American Red Cross and the 
decision-making bodies of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) 
and the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies 
(Federation). We believe that exclusion of MDA from the Movement and the 
Federation, which now comprises 177 societies in sovereign nations, is a 
betrayal of our Fundamental Principles including Humanity, Impartiality, 
Neutrality, Unity and Universality. 

Almost 70 years ago a precedent was set when the ICRC and the Federation 
formally accepted the use of the red crescent as a protective emblem for 
Islamic nations. By accepting the crescent, the ICRC and the Federation 
recognized sensitivities that might have otherwise prohibited Islamic nations 
from contributing formally to the work of the Movement. It would be 
impossible to imagine the modern Red Cross Movement without the Red Crescent 
Societies, and MDA is similarly indispensable.  

Correcting this unacceptable situation has been a priority for the American 
Red Cross ever since Israel became a sovereign state and signed the Geneva 
Conventions in 1948. Dissatisfied with progress on this issue, in 1987, 
representing the humanitarian will of the American people, American Red Cross 
delegates passed a formal resolution at their national convention, calling 
for immediate admission of MDA. In 1989, the Board of Governors took this one 
step further by passing a resolution that not only emphasized the importance 
of MDA membership in the Federation, but also unilaterally recognized MDA as 
a Red Cross sister society.  

With bipartisan support, the U.S. Congress has also voiced the concern of the 
American public on this issue. In 1987, Congress called for granting the red 
shield of David the identical status of recognition as the red cross and red 
crescent. In its authorization of funding for foreign relations in 1988 and 
1989, Congress advised that the State Department limit U.S. funding of the 
ICRC for these fiscal years until MDA recognition was granted. In 1999, the 
House of Representatives once again united to formally urge recognition of 
MDA and directed the president of the United States to enlist the cooperation 
of all nations signatory to the Geneva Conventions to achieve this. 
In 1998, the American Red Cross proposed granting MDA full membership by 
using a 'grandfathering approach' based on the precedents set by the ICRC and 
Federation in the past and the technical legal application of international 
Red Cross rules. Instead, the ICRC and Federation embarked upon a complex 
series of diplomatic conferences requiring super-majority votes with the goal 
of adopting a new neutral emblem. As a byproduct, these conferences would 
consider an option for full membership of MDA. Read the American Red Cross 
position on this process and the specific legal text. 

American support for resolution to this longstanding injustice has been 
growing throughout the protracted diplomatic process. On October 19, 2000, 
the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a resolution sponsored by Senators 
Fitzgerald (R-IL) and Lieberman (D-CT) and 22 other co-sponsors calling for 
the ICRC to immediately recognize and the Federation to immediately grant MDA 
full voting membership. This followed a similar bipartisan resolution passed 
by the House of Representatives on May 3, 2000. Since the new term began in 
January, Senator Clinton (D-NY) has added her voice to those in the Senate 
calling for resolution. In April 2001, H.CON. RES. 101 was introduced to the 
House of Representatives by Rep. Engel (D-NY), expressing the will of 
Congress that ICRC immediately recognize MDA and that this is a priority of 
the State Department. 
In 2000, the American Red Cross Board of Governors directed management to 
take all necessary actions to achieve full membership of MDA as soon as 
possible and has carefully considered developments on this issue at every 
step. At the American Red Cross national convention, held in May 2000, more 
than 1,100 delegates unanimously supported a resolution reaffirming their 
support for American Red Cross Board of Governors policy on MDA. After 
careful consideration and consultation among the Board of Governors and 
management, the American Red Cross decided to place in escrow its annual dues 
payment for the overhead expenses of the ICRC and Federation. In no way does 
this diminish the American Red Cross commitment or funding for humanitarian 
relief. We will never let policy differences with these Geneva-based 
institutions interfere with our mission to prevent and alleviate human 
suffering. In fact, our international efforts have grown significantly in 
response to the expectations and generosity of the American public. 

The American Red Cross believes that the exclusion of Magen David Adom from 
the global Red Cross family of societies has gone on for too long. Although 
the American Red Cross continues to work diligently with international 
leaders that control the recognition process (i.e., Federation and the ICRC) 
we believe this issue must be resolved now, and by that we mean in a matter 
of months not years. 

Indeed, Israel is not the only state facing problems because of its emblem. 
Kazakhstan, a former Soviet Republic, has also been denied membership in the 
International Movement because its emblem is comprised of both the crescent 
and the cross. This is also an unfair exclusion, especially since the society 
of the USSR used this same emblem. 

The leadership of the American Red Cross is committed to achieving full 
membership in the International Movement for both societies. They have been 
unjustly excluded for far too long. 

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