Julia Wrote:
<<JDG did *not* call Jeroen a Nazi.
JDG *did* liken Jeroen's methods of argument to Nazi methods.
There's a difference. However odious the comparison is, it is *not* the same
as out-and-out name-calling. I think that JDG is aware of the etiquette
guidelines and, aside from the recent shouting, is careful to conform to
them, however close he comes to the line.
The other poster *was* out of line, I agree, but that's not JDG's fault.>>
Because I really hate apologizing too many times in one month, I checked the
Yahoo Group archive and found you're right, Julia. John didn't call Jeroen a
Nazi, but said that Jeroen's arguments sounded like revisionism -- a Nazi
tactic. In the interests of fairness ('cuz I attacked him on it onlist in
the first place -- albeit somewhat indirectly) here's the relevant info:
This is snipped from the post by JDG at URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/brin-l/message/79291
The quotes are mine:
"No Jeroen, the Palestinians fully supported the coordinated Arab policy.
It is you who are revising history.
Did I mention that Nazis accused others of revising history as they revised
history themselves?"
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Is John calling him a Nazi? No. Is he tarring him with the 'Nazi brush'?
Yes.
I do think the line should be drawn at outright name-calling.
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And the post I had a real problem with was in fact at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/brin-l/message/77068
It was posted by Tom Beck, not John G.
Quotes again mine:
"<< Will we then also be allowed to refer to certain groups of Israelis (and
individual Israelis) as the evil sons of bitches they are, whenever
Palestinians get killed? >>
Sigh. Not this again. There's a difference between what the two sides are
doing, and if you can't (or, in this case, more likely, *WON'T*) see that,
then there's really no point in our discussing this issue. Because you're
just another fucking Nazi."
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So, I apologize John. Sincerely. (This makes twice in about 4 months.
*Sigh*)
I saw the word, made the connection to the previous post and got upset.
I just would very much like it if the list remained a civilized place for
discourse.
Jon
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