Thought some of you might be interested in something one of our most 
  eloquent ex list members wrote on another list recently, 
especially as it touches on much of the discussion here.  The Dan 
and Gord mentioned are the ones you are familiar with.  Gord has 
added a few comments at the end.

 From Vera:

Hi all,

Ever since September 11, I have been wanting to put down in words 
some of the thoughts I've been working with. I especially want to 
write something for you folks, since whenever Dan and Gord converse 
I seem to put in my two cents which always fall somewhere weirdly in 
the middle.  I feel compelled to explain myself.

I find Bush's "we're good and they're evil" characterization 
ridiculously simplistic. I don't disagree that bin Laden, and the 
events of September 11, are evil. Indeed, I think I finally settled 
in my own mind that it is appropriate to apply the word "evil" to a 
human being, when he is a powerfully charismatic leader who uses his 
psychological power to persuade young men that the highest good they 
can ever do is to end their lives in a horrendous fashion, while 
taking as many other lives as possible.

I have settled in my own mind that perhaps the most evil ideology 
the world has ever seen is the ideology of patriarchy, which holds 
that the natural order of the world is for a few older men to 
control most of the power and money while treating younger men as 
cannon fodder and women as property.

The inspiration and spiritual center of patriarchy is an omniscient,
all-powerful, wrathful male God who demands obedience -- no one 
you'd ever invite to your garden party. The male god of monotheism 
has no congress with woman. There is no real equivalent of Shakti in 
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, despite the merely tolerated 
presence of the Madonna and the Sophia.

Our culture is based on the same patriarchal ideology represented by 
radical Islamists; we just haven't recently carried it to quite the 
same extreme. But back up a few centuries and notice the holocaust 
that took place against women during the Middle Ages, perpetrated by 
the Church and its patriarchs.

So while I agree with Bush that bin Laden is evil, I don't agree 
that we Westerners represent unbridled "good."

Part and parcel of patriarchal systems is that the correct way to do
business is through competition and force. If the partriarchs must 
use force to get what they want, they pull out the big penises 
(guns, missiles) and wreak havoc upon their fellow human beings. 
(It's a cliche, and to some extent I'm tired of the missile/penis 
metaphor, but it's just too obvious a one to omit.)

Cooperation, empathy, and partnership, which are as much human 
traits as competition and violence, are sometimes given a nod along 
  the way, but in patriarchal systems "might makes right" is 
fundamental.

So I don't see the current world situation as simply another case of 
the U.S. justifying a massive deployment of force. I see it as 
another horribly destructive outcome of the worldwide predominance 
of the patriarchal model as a way of organizing human societies.

It dismays me to read so much anti-U.S. discourse. Though I don't 
agree with most of Bush's actions, it seems to me beside the point 
to demonize the U.S. The way superpowers conduct themselves in these 
times is a symptom of a larger problem. We must stop agreeing with 
the patriarchal model and insist that the human values of 
cooperation, empathy, and partnership be represented in all our 
institutions and in every word we utter or write.

What does this have to do with what I wrote the other day about the
anti-globalists? I see them as agreeing with the current 
organization of human beings into nation states. Every time someone 
mouths a generalization about "Americans," or agrees when someone 
else does, the system of nation states is given tacit support.

The system of nation states, the way it is currently practiced, is 
just institutionalized patriarchy. Powerful nations act as 
patriarchs-writ-large.  Why give any credence to this idea?

Gord reported that a Korean friend informed him "I hate America more 
than Japan." To me this implies hating people; I don't think this 
person is referring to hating the idea of America or Japan, or 
hating the governments of these countries. The comment makes me 
believe the speaker hates my family, and especially my daughters who 
combine both nationalities. People of good will should not agree 
with such statements, even in silence. It is possible to have 
compassion for the speaker while still objecting to his or
her words.

Having said all this, I must emphatically add that I believe the 
U.S. MUST attempt to flush out, arrest, and incarcerate terrorists. 
Like Bush, I don't want to wait till they strike again. I want to 
take away their weapons NOW. (This is different from "I want to kill 
them before they kill us," though spokespeople for the U.S. 
government don't seem to grasp the fine difference between those two 
statements.)

Why do I think the U.S. must do this? Because Europe won't. Of all 
the frustrating opinions to repeatedly read and hear, the European 
complaint that the U.S. isn't acting cooperatively is one of the 
worst. Frankly, I'd MUCH prefer that the U.S. not act alone, and 
that the U.S. government would actually *listen* to our allies, and 
grant that the leaders of other countries might have some wisdom. 
But the fact that the U.S. acts alone is as much the fault of the 
European countries, at this point, as it is the fault of the U.S. If 
other countries want an equal role in policing the world, then where 
are their armed forces? Where are their military expenditures? They 
have been content to allow the U.S. to spend more and equip more 
forces because it benefits them to do so. If they're so hot on
helping to police the world, then they need to put their budgets 
where their words are.

I have no illusions about the need for worldwide policing against 
terrorism. We must move to a system of international peacekeeping 
and international justice. It has to be backed up by the superior 
ability to take away the weapons of those who would do harm. And 
it's clear to me that the U.S. will go it alone as long as the 
European countries continue to permit it to. So they had better get 
moving.

But in the long run, those of us who don't like the current way 
business is conducted must speak out not against the U.S., but 
against patriarchy and the mystique of male violence. We must 
recognize and treat the root of the problem, not the symptoms.

This is a tall order for individuals. It's easy to adopt an attitude 
of helplessness and cyncism. But there are things individuals can do 
right now to help push along the evolution of human ideas:

1) Give aid to people and organizations that empower women and 
nurture children. In particular, help organizations whose goals 
include improving women's economic status. Independent women are the 
bane of partriarchal systems.

2) Find ways to introduce the best of our culture to others, while 
learning as much as possible about cultures foreign to us. In North 
America, this includes respecting the cultures of indigenous people 
right here in our own countries. It's high time we admitted that 
they are as much our founding fathers and mothers as our European 
ancestors.

3) Object to hate speech and violent language. Doing this might 
bring the conversation to an end, but in my opinion people of good 
will must no longer tolerate hate and violence in speech as well as 
in deeds.

4) Recognize that hatred of the West is not a virtuous repudiation 
of western culture's materialism. Understand that all human beings, 
regardless of where they live, are materialistic. It's part of our 
shadow. Our salvation is to dig deep and find our spiritual 
alternatives to the empty consumption and stockpiling of *things.*

We have a wonderful tool to help us do these things, and we're using 
it right now. I can't put it better than Terence McKenna did:

"We need to turn off the virtual internal televisions which are 
hooking us in to the tired cultural assumptions dictated from the 
Pentagon, Madison Avenue, and the corporate state. We need instead 
to turn on our modems and to begin to interact with like-minded 
people throughout the world and establish this new intellectual 
order which will be the salvation of the biosphere, I firmly 
believe. The Internet concretizes our collectivity finally allowing 
people to feel the inter relatedness of their fates; feel that inter 
relatedness as a thing that transcends national divisions,
ideological divisions. The net allows each of us to recover the 
experience of being part of the human family."

Peace -- Vera

Gord (who in case you didn't know, is teaching English in South Korea):

Sorry, I've had a busy week --  a birthday, a trip to Seoul 
(including a concert by Yo-Yo Ma and the Shanghai Symphony 
orchestra), joining a rock band (part-time), and several extremely 
late nights out hanging out with a Quebecois teacher here and having 
stunning barmaids chat up the friendly foreigner who is earnestly 
trying to learn Korean. But yeah, I don't mind you cross posting the 
email, though I would ask you amend one tiny fact? It was the 
younger sister of my friend/student who said that she hated America
more than Japan (and this was reported by her sister, not said 
directly to me).

I'd also note that this is people talking in their second (or third 
or fourth) language: some subtlety is missing. For example, I 
wouldn't say I hate America, but I do distrust America, dislike many 
aspects of it (while liking others), and am pretty critical of 
America most of the time. However, there's a lot of linguistic 
subtlety involved in expressing feelings like that --  strong 
general negative feelings that have particular causes and
roots.


-- 
Doug

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.zo.com/~brighto

"Now people stand themselves next to the righteous
And they believe the things they say are true
They speak in terms of what divides us
To justify the violence they do"

Jackson Browne, It Is One

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