Yes.

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Gary Nunn wrote:

>
> As much as I hate to participate in this discussion at all, I feel that I
> must point out a few points that have either been missed or not taken
> seriously.
>
> First of all, even though I disagree with Jeroen's method, I understand his
> intention.
>
> Having said that, let me show y'all the Big Picture....
>
> 1. Current List Members -
> Even though the archives are searchable and public, a compiled list of any
> kind can and will be used against someone eventually. Case and point: When
> my ex-wife and I divorced, she had a internet literate friend of hers search
> the internet for anything associated with my name or any past or present
> email address so that it could potentially be used against me. Guess what,
> they found postings for the Brin list, postings for other lists, etc.  They
> actually attempted to use several postings from this list concerning my
> position on gun control and other issues against me. Her attorney even
> threatened to sue me for liable because I mentioned her in several posts
> (not by name, but as The Ex) Anyway, the point is this, if someone creates
> an end-all, be-all list of supposed bad list behavior, then it WILL be used
> against someone somewhere.
>
> Suppose I apply for a job somewhere and my potential employer looks me up
> with one of the search engines and discovers that I am a member of the
> "Brin-L Wall O' Shame".  Suppose this potential employer decides that I am a
> bit too argumentative and that he does not want to have to deal with that.
> Of course, he only saw the "Brin-L Wall O' Shame" compilation and not the
> other 900 posts that show that IAAMOAC. And this is not critical of Jeroen,
> but when a list of that nature is created by any one person, it WILL be
> slanted and biased - even if done unintentionally.
>
> I refuse to take that chance. I have too much to lose out here in the real
> world in the event that someone takes such a message compilation out of
> context and uses it against me. I have nothing to hide, but I certainly
> don't want to give anyone any ammunition either.
>
>
> 2. - Potential New List Members -
> The bickering and backbiting on this list is bad enough as is to scare off
> ANY potential new member. The ONLY reason that I hang around is in hope that
> this list will someday return to it's glory of tolerant and intelligent
> people discussing and debating issues and other interesting topics.
>
> Anyway, back to my point... If I am looking for a list to join, and I ran
> across this list and read the archives, I would not even consider joining.
> However, suppose that we have a website that induces good behavior by
> posting all of it's members messages that do not conform to someone else's
> idea of the list rules. I would NEVER, EVER join a list that does that. I
> would, 1. - be afraid to post anything anytime, and 2. - I would be afraid
> to debate anything for any reason for fear of being put on someone's list.
>
> So my friends, here is the bottom line.... Regardless of what intentions
> there are for making this "Brin-L Wall O' Shame", if that happens, there
> WILL be a mass exodus from this list and you will almost assure that there
> will be no new members or if there are, they will not stick around for long.
>
> Ok, so I have had my say and I think that my opinion is very clear. No
> matter what reply or rebuttal is made to this message, I absolutely will not
> reply or contribute to continuing this topic. In other words, my silence or
> lack of replies or not defending my position does NOT imply my agreement nor
> does it mean that I concede on any point.
>
> Gary - who is now late for work....
>
> ___________________________________________
>   Gary L. Nunn
>   Delaware Ohio
>
>    "When there is no enemy within, the
>     enemies outside cannot hurt you."
>                   -African proverb
>
>

Marvin Long
Austin, Texas

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